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Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Post by jimmar »

croes wrote: post #303
jimmar wrote: post #301

First of all, what "blacklist?" The article puts that in the title, but never explains anything about a blacklist. > The National Security Agency is using Anthropic's most powerful model yet, Mythos Preview, despite top officials at the Department of Defense — which oversees the NSA — insisting the company is a "supply chain risk," two sources tell Axios. I find the article confusing. My impression of the "supply cha…

Anthropic has been designated a Supply Chain risk, the whole company. https://www.anthropic.com/news/where-stand-department-war

I'm not disputing the designation.

Per the US Code [1]:

> The term "supply chain risk" means the risk that an adversary may sabotage, maliciously introduce unwanted function, or otherwise subvert the design, integrity, manufacturing, production, distribution, installation, operation, or maintenance of a covered system so as to surveil, deny, disrupt, or otherwise degrade the function, use, or operation of such system.

My reading of the situation is that the relevant parts of that statute would be the "distribution" or "operation" of their systems as to "deny" or "disrupt" the "operation of such system." I.e., the Pentagon is afraid that Anthropic won't let them use their stuff.

[1] https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim...

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Post by FrustratedMonky »

hagbard_c wrote: post #306
hagbard_c wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Its because you sound like someone living in a bubble. There is very similar tone across maga apologists. And it just gets tiring to engage with.

1. Someone will take the bait and quote some facts.

2. The maga apologists will say 'fake news'. I don't accept those sources.

3. There will be some back and forth without convincing anybody.

4. Maybe some speculation that this is a right wing bot.

5. Eventually the argument devolves down to, Nothing means anything, nothing is fact, nothing can be proven, the moon is flat, we live in an illusion.

I personally think it is because of Brandolini's law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law

Your post sounds like it will go down the typical right wing rabbit hole. Trying to cite evidence against their infinite bullshit is losing battle. It takes a lot of energy, and that is the goal, to tire people out.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Post by okamiueru »

Ifkaluva wrote: post #240
latexr wrote: post #118

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> The whole artificial scarcity Anthropic created around Mythos / Glasswing is quite brilliant to be honest Isn’t that just the same strategy OpenAI has used over and over? Sam Altman is always “OMG, the new version of ChatGPT is so scary and dangerous”, but then releases it anyway (tells you a lot about his values—or lack thereof) and it’s more of the same. Pretty sure Aesop had a fable about that. “The CEO who crie…

Right, but in Aesop’s fable, the wolf did eventually come. It’s asymmetric, because in this case the wolf is not coming for the boy, it’s coming for everybody else

Or, the wolf is just a squeeky toy.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Post by FrustratedMonky »

arbitrary_name wrote: post #309
hagbard_c wrote: post #299

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the Biden administration ( i hated sleepy Joe) was so much more competent and less corrupt then these guys. it's not even close. "Hunter bidens laptop!!" seems so distant and quaint. the Pentagon declared Anthropic a supply chain risk, attempting to punitively destroy the company, then is adopting their product; please name a similarly asinine and farcical event from ANY administration. your whataboutism is just not…

The manipulation of crypto markets, based on the timing of military attacks, is such open corruption, under any other administration there would be an immediate special prosecutor and impeachment.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Post by hopinhopout »

arbitrary_name wrote: post #309
hagbard_c wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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the Biden administration ( i hated sleepy Joe) was so much more competent and less corrupt then these guys. it's not even close. "Hunter bidens laptop!!" seems so distant and quaint. the Pentagon declared Anthropic a supply chain risk, attempting to punitively destroy the company, then is adopting their product; please name a similarly asinine and farcical event from ANY administration. your whataboutism is just not…

Two wings of the same bird, the fight will always be between working class and the elites. Just know that when you fall for control opposition manipulation these people get a good laugh out of every second of arguing

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Post by croes »

jimmar wrote: post #311
croes wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anthropic has been designated a Supply Chain risk, the whole company. https://www.anthropic.com/news/where-stand-department-war

I'm not disputing the designation. Per the US Code [1]: > The term "supply chain risk" means the risk that an adversary may sabotage, maliciously introduce unwanted function, or otherwise subvert the design, integrity, manufacturing, production, distribution, installation, operation, or maintenance of a covered system so as to surveil, deny, disrupt, or otherwise degrade the function, use, or operation of such system…

They are afraid that Anthropic‘s AI would refuse to do what they want it do because of some kind of moral inside the model.

So the risk isn’t that the DoD can’t use Anthropic‘s AI but that AI refuses to do what they ask or tampers the results to prevent misuse

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Post by jaapbadlands »

hopinhopout wrote: post #317
arbitrary_name wrote: post #309

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the Biden administration ( i hated sleepy Joe) was so much more competent and less corrupt then these guys. it's not even close. "Hunter bidens laptop!!" seems so distant and quaint. the Pentagon declared Anthropic a supply chain risk, attempting to punitively destroy the company, then is adopting their product; please name a similarly asinine and farcical event from ANY administration. your whataboutism is just not…

Two wings of the same bird, the fight will always be between working class and the elites. Just know that when you fall for control opposition manipulation these people get a good laugh out of every second of arguing

Yeah everyone knows we're in a class war, you're not profound. This administration is still unique in it's levels of corruption and reality distortion.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Post by djeastm »

Zambyte wrote: post #176
clark_dent wrote: post #103

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It didn't, but the advent of spellcheck and autocorrect has made everyone completely give up on proper grammar or word selection as long as no squiggly line appears.

That defiantly has something to do with it

You need to spend more time in the libarry.
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