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Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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I can’t be an apologist for what’s going on but the Iranians seemed capable of killing tens of thousands of their own citizens in order to quash an uprising against the regime only weeks before the current events.

Thousands, not tens of thousands. Which is bad enough so it seems silly to lie about this but whoever can make up the biggest number seems to favored by the Western narrative. And let us not act like the decades of sanction were not designed to do exactly this. Sanctions mean you create as much hardships as possible for the people in hope they topple their government. They nearly never work but here we are. > Contrar…

"Mossads agents had been arming people and instructing them to riot. "

This feels far too much like Iranian government propaganda to be plausible.

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>Mossad agents have been instructed to fire at protestors to increase the death toll. Source?

> Hundreds of people died when security forces sought to crush the demonstrations, along with dozens of members of the police and Basij militia. Iranian intelligence operatives internally concluded that some of the violence was being encouraged and facilitated by Israeli operatives, according to the sources. “Foreign actors linked to Israeli intelligence services had, over time, established contact—through various so…

Those are not sources for the statement you were asked to back up with a source.

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Maybe we should look at why Iranians chant this? And those "proxies" are not "against" America or Israel - they exist solely as resistance groups that counter Israeli aggression, ethic cleansing, land theft etc. You know, like Israel is doing right now in their stated aim of annexing South Lebanon, after displacing over a million people from their homes. Without Israeli aggression and land theft, these resistance gro…

> those "proxies" are not "against" America or Israel - they exist solely as resistance groups that counter Israeli aggression, ethic cleansing, land theft etc. They explicitly call for the destruction of Israel.

A lot of people think the world would be better off without the violent Israeli regime and their influence.

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While I somewhat agree, you should also look at the results of those precision strikes. Usually, when they kill a senior Iranian officer sleeping in his appartment, they level the building or at lest blow up several adjacent units, probably killing at last 10 innocent people.

That's an inherent limitation of precision strikes. The objective is minimizing the collateral damage required to achieve the objective, not avoiding it entirely. Even the various explosive-free precision-guided munitions the US uses have a non-zero damage radius. One can argue whether or not it is a good idea for the bombs to be flying around in the first place, but there is no version of physics that allows anyone…

This one from the 12 day war did https://www.twz.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/Iran-scientis...

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Holy shit what rock are you living under? Israel is villifying itself just fine.

I argue that anyone saying this is watching too many TikTok videos and not really familiar with what's going on. Without going into too much detail, my position and line of work means that I have to keep very informed on the middle east and so far I've seen a lot of hatred, and very little factual basis. In fact every single person I personally talked to was very uninformed on these matters which is fine, as long as…

https://content.forensic-architecture.org/wp-content/uploads...

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Your comment made me realise that while Iran has attacked a dozen countries, they have yet to attack a school or a hospital. Not condoning anyone but shows the priority of both sides.

They obliterated a kindergarten in Israel just this morning, and several others since the start of the war. Last week a missile landed right behind my house, just between a kindergarten and an elementary school, damaging both. Literally all Israeli casualties were civilian. Your comment made me realize international media doesn't care to even publish this, leading to this incredibly skewed view.

Doesn't Isreal have a ban on reporting of strikes inside their borders?

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> The US and Israel have been carpet bombing Iran No they haven't. The US started phasing out carpet bombing[0] half a century ago. You discredit yourself by making such trivially falsifiable assertions. The US and Israel use precision strikes. It is why the ratio of targets per sortie is by far the highest ever recorded in a major conflict. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpet_bombing

While I somewhat agree, you should also look at the results of those precision strikes. Usually, when they kill a senior Iranian officer sleeping in his appartment, they level the building or at lest blow up several adjacent units, probably killing at last 10 innocent people.

Which is not “carpet bombing”.

Use words and phrases correctly, or expect an argument.

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Maybe we should look at why Iranians chant this? And those "proxies" are not "against" America or Israel - they exist solely as resistance groups that counter Israeli aggression, ethic cleansing, land theft etc. You know, like Israel is doing right now in their stated aim of annexing South Lebanon, after displacing over a million people from their homes. Without Israeli aggression and land theft, these resistance gro…

Yeah we should meet them half way

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The article kind of downplays the most interesting elements. Not an expert, but to my limited understanding: * I think this is the longest-range use of a ballistic missile in anger, possibly ever? * This seems to reveal previously-unknown range of Iranian ballistic missiles and, if true, could touch basically all of Europe?

Yep. Hence why I posted it. > previously-unknown It was implied by Iran's space program. There's a reason most regional powers also invested in a space program as well as a civilian uncles program. The name of the game is dual-use technologies. The Biden admin also warned about Iran-NK collaboration on building these kinds of capabilities [0] [0] - https://www.janes.com/osint-insights/defence-news/us-officia...

> civilian uncles program

I know its just a typo but lol'ed so hard

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I really is ridiculous, and somehow the number only gets bigger as the stories are told! Last I saw was "40,000 protestors murdered in just 24 hours!", or something very close to it. The US and Israel have been carpet bombing Iran for weeks now, blowing up hospitals, schools, power plants and residential buildings, yet the Iranian death toll is "only" around 1,500 so far. Yet we are to believe that Iran killed 40k of…

I think there are 5-7 thousand confirmed deaths by the UN, and medical reports in Iran estimated there could be 20,000+ casualties.

I don't know enough to dispute, but could you link such a report
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