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Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Would the Americans and Isreali’s start bombing mainland Iran and takin out their weapons and oil/gas infrastructure as retaliation?.

Americans and Israelis literally started this war by bombing an Iranian girl's school. They've been bombing Iran every day since then.

i believe the parent comment was being sarcastic

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that would be stupid and their regime is not stupid

Do you think launching a dumb ICBM at New York would make the US put boots on the ground.

I kind of doubt it's enough. This wouldn't be another 9/11, it would be merely be retaliation.

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Maybe don't murder the religious leader that made the rulings. Can anyone blame them for considering developing nuclear weapons for real now? I can't.

I don't know but I can certainly blame them for oppressing and murdering their own citizens.

There are lots of countries doing just the same but the West does not give a flying fuck about it. Most of the human rights violations they care about somehow related to countries that happened to have oil.

And if you tell me that US /Israel are bombing Iran to protect rights of oppressed then I have that wonderful bridge.

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The haven’t even started using these yet, curious who wins this game of chess: https://www.usff.navy.mil/press-room/news-stories/article/31...

Many experts think Iran has already won. They don't have to lay mines to seed doubt, they don't need boats to close the straights, shaheds are sufficient. One does need to define what it means to "win" For Iran, it seems the regime will stay in power, you can't remove them from the air. The geography and population size of Iran will prove more challenging than Iraq or Afghanistan. There is very little support for Tru…

I was just talking about winning the “plant-bombs” vs “detect and-blow-up-bombs” chess game. I have no comment on the rest of what you said, nor do I care who “wins” here, I have no say in the matter and have chosen zero emotional investment.

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the IAEA, presumably you trust UN agencies? in any case, these are the mythical WMDs found in Iraq: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/12/03/world/middlee... https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/16/world/cia-is-said-to-have...

From your source: > "These weapons were not part of an active arsenal. They were remnants from Iraq’s arms program in the 1980s during the Iran-Iraq war." These are not the "WMD" that led to or had any involvement with 2003, it's dishonest to suggest so

These were chemical weapons found in Iraq, the reason the new york times was interested in the story was the fact that ISIS has somehow developed chemical weapons using Iraq's existing infrastructure.

This means there were active facilities, materials and know how even after the war

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that would be stupid and their regime is not stupid

They're Muslims. You can debate whether that means 'stupid', but they've come to totally erroneous opinions on the structure of reality.

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I can’t be an apologist for what’s going on but the Iranians seemed capable of killing tens of thousands of their own citizens in order to quash an uprising against the regime only weeks before the current events.

Thousands, not tens of thousands. Which is bad enough so it seems silly to lie about this but whoever can make up the biggest number seems to favored by the Western narrative. And let us not act like the decades of sanction were not designed to do exactly this. Sanctions mean you create as much hardships as possible for the people in hope they topple their government. They nearly never work but here we are. > Contrar…

>Mossad agents have been instructed to fire at protestors to increase the death toll.

Source?

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> This seems to reveal previously-unknown range of Iranian ballistic missiles and, if true, could touch basically all of Europe True but they have also literally launched multiple orbital satellites from iran on iranian rockets. Eg. The Noor 2 spy satellite and before that the Noor 1 series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noor_2_(satellite) These are in orbit to this day. They regularly post images it takes of US milit…

> is that we have leaders who actively believed the downplaying of Irans military capabilities We've been hinting about these capabilities for decades [0]. A lot of what is being brought up now is stuff a number of us touched on during the Obama years. None of this is really hidden either - it would be brought up in think tanks and even undergrad classes if you attended a target program. Civilian leaders have always…

> it's all about managing upwards

That might not work with the current administration. Which probably a/the problem.

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that would be stupid and their regime is not stupid

Hardly, after attacking all their friends in the region, which would leave them even more isolated after the war, I would not attribute careful strategic planning either

“Better to be feared than loved” - Niccolo Machiavelli

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Were they caught by the same people who found WMDs in Iraq by any chance?

the IAEA, presumably you trust UN agencies? in any case, these are the mythical WMDs found in Iraq: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/12/03/world/middlee... https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/16/world/cia-is-said-to-have...

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