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Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by jmward01 »

dmitrygr wrote: post #300
jmward01 wrote: post #299

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A professional looks at and understands the situation as it exists now. A professional is trained to not get into situations where fear controls them. Your argument is a compelling one that either these are not professionals or that they are professionals and are doing this on purpose. The stats today clearly show the massive difference between danger to Israeli personnel and Palestinians. Israel at this point has ei…

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I'll repeat the bit about professionals being trained to avoid and deescalate. That is the point. I think the details of this, and many similar incidents clearly show a lack of attempt to deescalate or avoid. That was the clear argument I made in my post and am re-emphasizing now. This clear trend shows either malicious intent by professionals or amateurs put in a situation they shouldn't have been allowed near and those above them should be held accountable for it.

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Post by selcuka »

Agingcoder wrote: post #272
woodpanel wrote: post #190

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If you don’t mind developing, what made you switch stance ? many people never change their minds even when faced with overwhelming evidence , and based on your prior level of support, I’m quite curious about the actual process .

> many people never change their minds even when faced with overwhelming evidence

Not the OP, but many people do. I've changed my stance on similar topics multiple times in the past, based on new (to me, at least) evidence.

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Post by dgxyz »

woodpanel wrote: post #190

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Nuking Gaza is an abhorrent position but I don't think there will be any reform out there until there is a decisive win and if I have to pick a side it's not the Palestinians. If the Palestinians win it'll embolden other states or factions to have another go at the six-day war again and possibly prop up break-away action against other factions' host countries. There needs to be a complete and utter defeat that results in an enlightenment process. The strategy and military approach Hamas uses for example cannot be seen to win.

You have to look at the bigger picture. If they lose it's going to be a problem for all of us. Thus I have to support them.

And no I'm not a Trump supporter or Jewish or Israeli. The current operation in Iran is a fuck up. The whole thing that lead to 10-7 was a fuck up. It should have been dealt with years ago, preferably through diplomacy and threat of a strong hand rather than actually having to bomb the place.

There's no righteous side at all in this conflict.

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Post by buttsack »

abcde666777 wrote: post #283
spaghetdefects wrote: post #280

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If my tax dollars, military and government are killing those two people every second, you better believe that I'm going to do everything in my power to stop it.

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The fuck are you on about? Pretty sure most niche places like Iceland or Costa Rica are not doing this, and every government on earth thinks of war as passe.

Only defense companies who profit and religious fucking idiots like you think war is some necessary thing.

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Post by busterarm »

mmooss wrote: post #286
nxor2 wrote: post #194

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The parent comment is just anti-Muslim hate. It has nothing to do with the topic.

Uh, I didn't say anything about Muslims at all. I just said that I was in Berlin.

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Post by bhouston »

igonvalue wrote: post #306
bhouston wrote: post #49

For those wondering, it is verifiable story, it is covered as fact in Israeli newspapers: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-forces-kill-west-bank-... https://www.ynetnews.com/article/p7mq5k5bs The main justification floated is that the car was "going fast" and thus made the undercover Israeli soldiers feel unsafe. The New York Times describes it as such: "Ali Bani Odeh’s wife and four young boys hadn’t seen him i…

I'm wondering about the broader context here: Are stories like this rare or common? Are they increasing or decreasing in frequency?

Yeah it is getting worse. This was written 3 days ago before this event by Human Rights Watch:

https://www.hrw.org/news/2026/03/13/in-the-shadow-of-war-set...

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