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Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Perhaps you’ve heard that the purpose of a system is what it does?

Exactly this. These systems are supposed to have been built by some of the smartest scientific and engineering minds on the planet, yet they somehow failed (or chose not) to think about second-order effects and what steady-state outcomes their systems will have. That's engineering 101 right there.

That's a small part on why people became more cynical of tech over the decades. At least with the internet there were large efforts to try and nail down security in the early 00's. Imagine if we instead left it devolve into a moderator-less hellscape where every other media post is some goatse style jump scare.

That's what it feels like with AI. But perhaps worse since companies are lobbying to keep the chaos instead of making a board of standards and etiquette.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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> Just because you can cook with a hammer doesn't make it its purpose. If you survey all the people who own a hammer and ask what they use it for, cooking is not going to make the list of top 10 activities. If you look around at what LLMs are being used for, the largest spaces where they have been successfully deployed are astroturfing, scamming, and helping people break from reality by sycophantically echoing their…

I do mean this is a pretty piss poor example. Email, by number of emails attempted to send is owned by spammers 10 to 100 fold over legitimate emails. You typically don't see this because of a massive effort by any number of companies to ensure that spam dies before it shows up in your mailbox. To go back one step farther porn was one of the first successful businesses on the internet, that is more than enough motiva…

>that is more than enough motivation for our more conservative congress members to ban the internet in the first place

Yes, and now porn is highly regulated. Maybe that's a hint?

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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You’re way off base. It can also create sexually explicit pictures of men.

Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but women are disproportionately affected by this than men.

That sounds like it could be true, but do you have any actual evidence of that?

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It's true, making these things easier and faster and more accessible really doesn't matter

That's a bonkers take. Am I misunderstanding you or are you somehow saying anything done in the past is fine to do more of?

Poe's Law, mate.

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Just an unvoiced caveat. It's entirely possible that society won't survive the next century for a growing number of reasons.

Indeed, so why would we roll the dice on even more of those reasons? We could play it safe for a change.

It's just bad timing, but the ball is already rolling downhill, the cat's already out of the bag, etc. Best we can do at the moment is fight for open research and access.

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LLMs are fiction machines. All they can do is hallucinate, and sometimes the hallucinations are useful. That alone rules them out, categorically, from any critical control loop. After you eliminate anything that requires accountability and trustworthiness from the tasks which LLMs may be responsibly used for, the most obvious remaining use-cases are those built around lying: - advertising - astroturfing - other forms…

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I want to be able to leverage Hollywood grade VFX and make shows and transform my likeness for real time improv.

Do you know anything about "Hollywood grade VFX" ? Have you ever worked for any company that does it?

No more nepotism in Hollywood

Do you think "Hollywood VFX" is full of nepotism?

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Yeah. Example: stripper poles. Or hitachi magic wands. Those poles WERE NOT invented for strippers/pole dancers. Ditto for the hitachis. Even now, I'm pretty sure more firemen use the poles than strippers. But that doesn't stop the association from forming. That doesn't make me not feel a certain way if I see a stripper pole or a hitachi magic wand in your living room.

how many front rooms have you walked into that had a stripper pole? (also: what city? for a friend...)

i've seen it in NYC a few times. Pole dance is a fairly common fitness hobby. there are plenty of gyms/studios for it also.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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I believe that eventually the AI bubble will evolve in a simple scheme to corner the compute market. If no one can afford high-end hardware anymore then the companies who hoarded all the DRAM and GPUs can simply go rent seeking by selling the computer back to us at exorbitant prices.

That makes no sense. If the bubble bursts, there will be a huge oversupply and the prices will fall. Unless all Micron, Samsung, Nvidia, AMD, etc all go bankrupt overnight, the prices won't go up when demand vanishes.

That assumes the bubble will burst, which it won't if they succesfully corner the high-end compute market.

It doesn't matter if the AI is any good, you will still pay for it because it's the only way to access more compute power than consumer hardware offers.

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Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but women are disproportionately affected by this than men.

That sounds like it could be true, but do you have any actual evidence of that?

These are one of those things that are hard to get statistics of due to the nature of the subject, but going to any website that features AI generated content like CivitAI will show you a lot more naked AI generated women than men, and that the images of women are greatly better in quality than the men. None of the people actually exist, of course, but some things stem from this:

1. There are probably AI portals that are OK with uploading nonconsensual sexual images of people. I am not about to go looking for those, but the ratio of women to men on those sites is likely similar. 2. The fact that the quality of women is better than the quality of men speaks to vastly more training being done on women 3. Because there's so much training on women it's just easier to use AI for nefarious purposes on women than men (have to find custom trained LORAs to get male anatomy right, for example).

I did try to look for statistics out of curiosity, but most just cite a number without evidence.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/women-face-new-sexual-hara...

https://verfassungsblog.de/deepfakes-ncid-ai-regulation/

https://www.csis.org/analysis/left-shoulder-worries-ai

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Investing and scalping are two different things. When you invest the pie grows larger, scalping you take more than you can eat from the existing pie.

Very few companies are investing into AI, most are engaged in scalping, hoping they are big enough to weather the storm.

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