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Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Genuine question: does the agent work for you if you didn't build it, train it, or host it? It's ostensibly doing things you asked it, but in terms dictated by its owner.

indeed

and it's even worse than that: you're literally training your replacement by using it when it re-transmits what you're accepting/discarding

and you're even paying them to replace you

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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> There’s an extremely hurtful narrative going around that my product, a revolutionary new technology that exists to scam the elderly and make you distrust anything you see online, is harmful to society The article is certainly interesting as yet another indicator of the backlash against AI, but I must say, “exists to scam the elderly” is totally absurd. I get that this is satire, but satire has to have some basis in…

Training a model on sound data from readily available public social network posts and targeting their followers (which on say fb would include family and is full of "olds") isn't a very far fetched use-case for AI. I've created audio models used as audiobook narrators where you can trivially make a "frantic/panicked" voice clip saying "help it's [grandson], I'm in jail and need bail. Send money to [scammer]" If it's…

It is happening already, recently Brazilian woman living in Italy was scammed thinking she was having an online relationship with Brazilian tiktoker, the scammers created a fake profile and were sending her audio messages with the voice of said tiktoker cloned via AI. She sent the scammers a lot of money for the wedding but when she arrived in Brazil discovered the con.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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In broad strokes - disagree. This is the knife-food vs knife-stab vs gun argument. Just because you can cook with a hammer doesn't make it its purpose.

> Just because you can cook with a hammer doesn't make it its purpose. If you survey all the people who own a hammer and ask what they use it for, cooking is not going to make the list of top 10 activities. If you look around at what LLMs are being used for, the largest spaces where they have been successfully deployed are astroturfing, scamming, and helping people break from reality by sycophantically echoing their…

I do mean this is a pretty piss poor example.

Email, by number of emails attempted to send is owned by spammers 10 to 100 fold over legitimate emails. You typically don't see this because of a massive effort by any number of companies to ensure that spam dies before it shows up in your mailbox.

To go back one step farther porn was one of the first successful businesses on the internet, that is more than enough motivation for our more conservative congress members to ban the internet in the first place.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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I hate LLMs as much as the next guy, but this was honestly just not very funny. Humor can be a great vehicle for criticism when it's done right, but this feels like clickbait-level lazy writing. I wouldn't criticize it anywhere else, but I have enjoyed reading a bunch of actually good writing from mcsweeney's over the years in the actual literary journal and on their website.

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Like it or not, we're in an attention economy. We've seen that if we aren't loud and brash about it that the adminsitration will happily be loud (and sometimes lie) to push their narrative.

Maybe if we ever return to normal times and also don't let the other 90% of corruption stay where it's been for the past 40 years we can start to ease off the noise.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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article forgot to mention the usual "think about the water usage"

If it's the "usual reply", maybe it's because....I dunno...water is kinda important?

I'm also not convinced the HN refrain of "it's actually not that much water" is entirely true. I've seen conflicting reports from sources i generally trust, and it's no secret an all-GPU AI data center is more resource intensive than a general purpose data center.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Scammers are using AI to copy the voice of children and grandchildren, and make calls urgently asking to send money. It's also being used to scam businesses out of money in similar ways (copying the voice of the CEO or CFO, urgently asking for money to be sent). Sure, the AI isn't directly doing the scamming, but it's supercharging the ability to do so. You're making a "guns don't kill people, people do" argument her…

Not at all. I’m saying AI doesn’t exist to scam elderly , which is saying nothing about whether it’s dangerous in that respect.

I can't think of many other reasons to create voice cloning AI, or deepfake AI (other than porn, of course).

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Viewed from historical perspective, big tech is really reaping the benefits of the intellectual wealth accumulated over many thousands of years by humanity collectively. This should be recognized to find a better path forward.

Sounds like you just want some of their money.

Yes, especially since they're talking about wiping about most or all white-collar jobs in our lifetimes. What's wrong with that?

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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> There’s an extremely hurtful narrative going around that my product, a revolutionary new technology that exists to scam the elderly and make you distrust anything you see online, is harmful to society The article is certainly interesting as yet another indicator of the backlash against AI, but I must say, “exists to scam the elderly” is totally absurd. I get that this is satire, but satire has to have some basis in…

My hypothesis: Generative AI is, in part, reaping the reaction that cryptocurrency sowed.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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The Luddites weren’t anti technological progress, they were anti losing their job and entire way of life with an impolite “get fucked you fucking peasant” message to boot.

I wonder what name the tech bros will come up to call us for the same feeling nowadays.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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yeah, but zero chance of that happening unfortunately.

well practiced cynicism is boring. imo there are actually too few answers for what a better path would even look like. hard to move forward when you don't know where you want to go. answers in the negative are insufficient, as are those that offer little more than nostalgia.

It's interesting that the prosperity maximum of both the United States and China happened at "market economy kept in line with a firm hand" even though we approached it from different directions (left and right respectively) and in the US case reversed course.

We could use another Roosevelt.

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