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Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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Post by hulitu »

0manrho wrote: post #35
0manrho wrote: post #34

If you, like me, were wondering why Google thinks it needs another operating system (ChromeOS, Android, Fuchsia - which is presumably dead (edit/turns out it's not/edit)) or where it fits in with the "stack": > ChromeOS and Aluminium Operating System (ALOS) Commercial devices across all form factors (e.g. laptops, detachables, tablets, and boxes) and tiers (e.g., Chromebook, Chromebook Plus, AL Entry, AL Mass Premium…

Oh, Fuchsia isn't dead [0]. Apparently it's what the Nest Hub launched with and the latest update is pretty recent: from Oct 2025. Interesting. (Replying to my own comment instead of editing it as this is tangential to the topic at hand) 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuchsia_(operating_system)

> Oh, Fuchsia isn't dead

It is resting ...

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

pbmonster wrote: post #228
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #164

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There isn't that much demand for that on Linux because the apps aren't adversarial. If you install Facebook on your phone, you want it locked in a jail where it can't suck up everything on your device and send it to Meta. If you install the Signal desktop app on Linux, it's open source and doesn't do that. And to the extent that you use the likes of Facebook it's the web version. Meanwhile per-app isolation is a pain…

> You download a picture in a browser, crop it in a photo editor and attach it to an email. All three apps need access to the same picture. Your backup app needs access to everything. On Android, each of those three apps would ask you for file system permissions on first launch. Your choices are "full access to user files", "limited access" (usually one directory and all its sub-directories), "full access, but only t…

> On Android, each of those three apps would ask you for file system permissions on first launch. Your choices are "full access to user files", "limited access" (usually one directory and all its sub-directories), "full access, but only this time", and "no access".

Which isn't completely useless, but in most cases the only thing you really want is "full access" or "I don't actually trust this thing" -- and most users aren't going to comprehend the difference between more fine-grained alternatives anyway -- and then you're basically looking at the distinction between normal trusted apps and something you run in a container.

> Also, apps can pretty much never access each others config/keys/etc files - which they never should.

And that's the problem, because the backup app is supposed to be able to back up everything, a malware scanner can't have potentially malicious apps hiding something from it, etc.

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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Post by goku12 »

kyboren wrote: post #295
goku12 wrote: post #112

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No thanks! It makes sense for them, not for us. Their rent seeking behavior, locking down of the OS and hardware and their hostility towards the FOSS mod community and users have all worsened lately. The only reason why they ever revisit such 'features' is a massive backlash from the community. Then again, history has shown that they try to smuggle them back in some other form. Desktop and laptop are the last standin…

I wish I could upvote this comment more than once. I'm appalled it's got a negative score. Are we not on Hacker News? What the fuck happened to this community?

To be very honest, I'm not surprised. This has been a growing tendency recently. I have also noticed a few brand new accounts whose entire comments are praises for certain controversial actions by some corporations.

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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Post by jopsen »

vbezhenar wrote: post #129
jopsen wrote: post #116

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Lots of opinions that are less than idea in gnome. But the only one that really breaks me is lack of typeahead in Nautilus. I just want to type D, enter and open Documents/, how hard can it be. It's been almost a decade since they removed it, and I still can't use vanilla Nautilus. I always end up with Nemo or a patched Nautilus. rant aside, the rest of gnome seems fine. Don't love it, but also don't hate it. I can a…

Works for me. I'm typing D, it instantly filters the list of files and selects first item. That's "desktop" for me, so I need to type O or press Down to select "documents" and type .

The filtering of files is not instant. If you type do it won't be fast enough. Maybe there have been slight improvements.

But afaik it still defaults to search.

Try: https://github.com/lubomir-brindza/nautilus-typeahead

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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Post by [deleted] »

liendolucas wrote: post #158

No one tech-savvy wants this. We are already sick of Google's Android lockdowns on mobile phones, and now coming after laptops and desktops? What's that going to be like? Will developers have to beg to have control over devices they own? Will we be locked down on the store and have to manually install "unverified" software? Will I be able to take screenshots at will on MY computer, or get a black screen because Googl…

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Post by pjmlp »

powerclue wrote: post #297
pjmlp wrote: post #280

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It is called GNU/Linux for a reason.

By an extremist minority, it is, sure.

A minority that does most of the work, without which you wouldn't be posting that comment from a GNU/Linux system, using a kernel compiled with GCC.

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Post by pjmlp »

lawlessone wrote: post #302
pjmlp wrote: post #123

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Of course I am referring to what millions of people buy today, many of whom that is their only computing device.

Good for them, but what's the relevance, are you saying because people buy it's moral?

You get to see something that apparently you never saw.

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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Post by powerclue »

pjmlp wrote: post #316
powerclue wrote: post #297

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By an extremist minority, it is, sure.

A minority that does most of the work, without which you wouldn't be posting that comment from a GNU/Linux system, using a kernel compiled with GCC.

Does most of the work to keep a Linux desktop developed? That's an incredible claim and needs a source. You might be able to convince me that most kernel developer impact comes from that community, but not the OS.

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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Post by palata »

rendaw wrote: post #110
vbezhenar wrote: post #69

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I'm asking for Android-based desktop. Windows is so bad, that I've lost any hope for it to recover. MacOS is not that bad, but it's tied to Apple hardware and I don't like it. Also it's not getting better either, new releases bring more bloat and features I didn't ask for. Linux is what I use, but I also lost hope for it to ever become polished experience. Just recent months they introduced another bug to GNOME which…

Windows is bad because it has opinions about advertisements and AI. MacOS is bad because it has opinions about what hardware you should use. Linux is bad because it doesn't have opinions.

My opinion is that I should be able to choose my window manager and have a proper tiling window manager if I wish, and Linux is the only one allowing me to do that.

It's a feature, not a bug.

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