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It's hyperbole meant to express my profound outrage at an apparently outrageous situation. To be clear, I do not endorse murder but when reading the article, I empathized with the author in a way that made me feel murderously angry.
Get a grip. Murderous rage isn't typically an acceptable response to things that upset you.
I'm sadly not in the least bit surprised by the comments here, actually accusing the author of being the racist, professional victim, all of that horse-shit. I am a white man, but the author's points really hit home for me, not because I've myself been treated this way, but because I have had to tolerate conduct like this for pretty much my entire life, just not directed at me. I can't tell you the number of times I'…
I agree with what you have said, and yes, anyone speaking truth about institutional racism and white privilege gets downvoted. Since discussion of the reality is not permitted, I find it helpful to keep for my personal records names and company affiliations of people defending white privilege.
I'm sadly not in the least bit surprised by the comments here, actually accusing the author of being the racist, professional victim, all of that horse-shit. I am a white man, but the author's points really hit home for me, not because I've myself been treated this way, but because I have had to tolerate conduct like this for pretty much my entire life, just not directed at me. I can't tell you the number of times I'…
I agree with what you have said, and yes, anyone speaking truth about institutional racism and white privilege gets downvoted. Since discussion of the reality is not permitted, I find it helpful to keep for my personal records names and company affiliations of people defending white privilege.
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At the very least, the magnitude and gravity claimed become suspect.
Watch this video and tell me if you think that they're comfortable portraying themselves this way and wouldn't act the way discussed in this post? http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2012/08/...
I have such mixed feelings about this being on HN. Yes, I think we should read it and learn from it. I absolutely agree with the author. It's one of those things I wish everyone knew but for some reason there are still people who don't, so maybe showing up on the front page every once and a while is a good reminder. But the comments should be turned off. This is such a heated topic and are there aren't any right answ…
The fact that there is such a ...passionate... discussion about it, from "this is terrible" to "this guy is just being too sensitive" or "OMG, the OP is racist as well!" shows that there isn't a consensus opinion about this kind of behavior in the workplace for our industry. This, along with sexism, is difficult to talk about well, but I don't know if that means we need to stop talking.
My point is that discussing controversial social issues is generally unproductive. Worth thinking about, but unless PG devotes his next essay to this topic, I don't think anyone is going to be changing their minds here.
For what it's worth I agree with most of your comments on this thread, and the backlash you are getting has really lowered my average opinion of this community. It's disgusting.
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> * A black coworker is singled out by another (non-black) coworker with "watch out for that guy, he’s trouble, he talks a lot of shit" I think you read that wrong. The black coworker (Mike) said that in reference to Steve not the other way around. Given that, do you think the black coworker should be fired for saying that about Steve? Is it okay for the Mike to say that about Steve but not the other way around, rega…
No, because Steve is surely not one of a tiny minority of white people in the office, nor is there a clear cultural connotation/prejudice of white people being thuggish. For whatever it's worth to you to know this: being considered thuggish, or violent, or hotheaded, or unreasonable is a hot-button issue for working black professionals. I've had neighbors complain to me that they can't disagree or argue with anything…
It's akin to calling someone 'white trash'.
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At the very least, the magnitude and gravity claimed become suspect.
Watch this video and tell me if you think that they're comfortable portraying themselves this way and wouldn't act the way discussed in this post? http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2012/08/...
Decoder ring for nerds who are unable to read past words like "neoliberal colonizer" without racing to the nearest TEXTAREA: * A black coworker is singled out by another (non-black) coworker with "watch out for that guy, he’s trouble, he talks a lot of shit" * Referring to a latino coworker, that same coworker suggests jokes: "Like ‘you’re a mexican whore’ or like ‘your mother’s a Mexican whore?" * The black coworker…
Brilliant analysis. I am one of the readers who had deep concern for the truthfulness of these observations. If they are true, then he got screwed, royally, and should sue. Except for the pendant comment. That's just a case of taking yourself too seriously. Yet another nail in the coffin of his credibility.
I don't have a problem with racist/sexist jokes. I do however have a sever issue with healthcare and quality of education being tied to your parents employment and property ownership. I think that is much, much more terrible, as it not only screws over the poor in general, but in particular it really fucks over black people/hispanics/immigrants specifically simply because they are on average much poorer.
I guess I'm just really upset over the huge fuss people make over the word nigger. It's an incredibly powerful word that taints anything it touches, and because of its association it becomes particularly hard for people in general to understand that the most racist things don't target the race of anyone, just their income level.
So, yes, I think the author did go through some stupid shit because his coworkers are assholes. However, they probably aren't racist. They look down on most of society.
Decoder ring for nerds who are unable to read past words like "neoliberal colonizer" without racing to the nearest TEXTAREA: * A black coworker is singled out by another (non-black) coworker with "watch out for that guy, he’s trouble, he talks a lot of shit" * Referring to a latino coworker, that same coworker suggests jokes: "Like ‘you’re a mexican whore’ or like ‘your mother’s a Mexican whore?" * The black coworker…
Suppose, instead of just thinking, "Dumbwhite---," the OP had actually said out loud , "Dumbwhite---." Would that be a firing offense, too? I'm sure it would be - I'm just asking to make sure.
I will be sure to avoid Kixeye's games (Battle Pirates, Backyard Monsters, War Commanders), and hope to hear of them going under soon.