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Instead of jumping on what the guy with no power did wrong, why not focus on the utterly despicable way in which he's been treated? If that's not your first and most urgent concern, then you really need to ask yourself why it isn't.
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... wow. Just .... wow. You may disagree with his fashion sense, but this man is smartly dressed. I don't see any Raiders jackets, or any baggy jeans/tee-shirts. Just because his clothing is not mainstream and he is black DOES NOT make it hip-hop fashion. While we're on the topic, note the shoes in particular, very nice, especially for a guy struggling to afford a bedroom in Oakland.
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Hey, I can do that too. Is this the image your memory conjures up when you think of Dre?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QSIi0iTqOZE/Tqz9waZFr_I/AAAAAAAACF...
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That bit of context is irrelevant. He frequently used the extremely general term, "Dumbwhite motherfucker.", which is blatantly racist and makes his complete argument null and void, because the comments he makes in this post are no better than the crap he heard at his job. Sincerity and respect for a person's race does not take a backseat just because someone made racist remarks to someone else. I've been the victim…
>which is blatantly racist and makes his complete argument null and void, because the comments he makes in this post are no better than the crap he heard at his job. Oh hey, it's the rare explicitly stated ad hominem attack.
(Not that that's any better.)
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> Apart from the comment about the pendant, any one of the comments listed above would be a firing offense here. You know, it occurs to me that it's kinda sad that "firing offense" is the highest degree of punishment we have available to inflict. It's our proxy for social exile, but it's not actually social exile. That doesn't seem enough, but jailing and fining don't seem to fit either.
This is something I find interesting. AFAIK in the US because of free speech nobody can really do anything in law regarding racism. In the UK in the last few years there have been several high profile cases of racial abuse on Twitter and the racists have gotten jail time (one example at the bottom of the article linked below). Protecting free speech is important. However most people probably agree there should be a l…
Well, the ACLU would. And has. And for good reason.
There is no right not to have your feelings hurt.
(NB for people hopping here without context: that last sentence is not meant to talk about OP)
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... wow. Just .... wow. You may disagree with his fashion sense, but this man is smartly dressed. I don't see any Raiders jackets, or any baggy jeans/tee-shirts. Just because his clothing is not mainstream and he is black DOES NOT make it hip-hop fashion. While we're on the topic, note the shoes in particular, very nice, especially for a guy struggling to afford a bedroom in Oakland.
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Let's pretend for a minute that I think it's reasonable to swap black & white in these sentences and call them equivalent (I don't)... There's still a mammoth difference between opinions someone writes on a blog and things people say to their employees or coworkers at work . I can't think of a time that I faced the level of ugliness laid out in this story even once in my 32 years, so the last thing that occurs to me…
The tone isn't helping his case. I've been around these kind of complaints in person, and while I know that the injustices taking place are horrible and uncalled for, I also know that the complainer is also (not-so-subtly any more) racist as well. Perhaps he wasn't before he entered the school system or the workforce (not necessarily this job), but saying things like dumbwhite *, bringing up colonization like slavery…
It's the really horrible bit that deserves focus.
I have such mixed feelings about this being on HN. Yes, I think we should read it and learn from it. I absolutely agree with the author. It's one of those things I wish everyone knew but for some reason there are still people who don't, so maybe showing up on the front page every once and a while is a good reminder. But the comments should be turned off. This is such a heated topic and are there aren't any right answ…
This, along with sexism, is difficult to talk about well, but I don't know if that means we need to stop talking.
Decoder ring for nerds who are unable to read past words like "neoliberal colonizer" without racing to the nearest TEXTAREA: * A black coworker is singled out by another (non-black) coworker with "watch out for that guy, he’s trouble, he talks a lot of shit" * Referring to a latino coworker, that same coworker suggests jokes: "Like ‘you’re a mexican whore’ or like ‘your mother’s a Mexican whore?" * The black coworker…
> Apart from the comment about the pendant, any one of the comments listed above would be a firing offense here. You know, it occurs to me that it's kinda sad that "firing offense" is the highest degree of punishment we have available to inflict. It's our proxy for social exile, but it's not actually social exile. That doesn't seem enough, but jailing and fining don't seem to fit either.
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I like how this fixates on the smallest offense and considers it representative and most relevant for armchair psychological analysis.
Reverse the races and look at how you'd judge a black equivalent. This one "smallest offense" would color your perception of the person permanently.
"Whiteness" is defined in contrast to a person's blackness. You can't talk about racism against whites without first acknowledging a previous racism by whites.
