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Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by dcchambers »

Ecco wrote: post #155

I feel like we’ve gone full circle. For decades Apple hardware sucked and was badly overpriced, but you paid the price to enjoy running Mac OS X. Now Apple makes amazing hardware (especially laptops) but the drawback is that you have to run macOS on them. I really wish Asahi Linux had more support, I would have bought a couple M4 Minis.

If you don't need the battery life of a MacBook and you're happy getting a desktop device, there's plenty of machines running new AMD chips that are just as fast as an M series mac, if not faster. And they'll run Linux with no compromises. Check out Bee-Link (https://www.bee-link.com/) for some mac-inspired hardware.

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Post by blinkingled »

smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

Ugh I upgraded excitedly and can't stand the UI - there is no upside to any of it. Also for some reason things are also beachballing and VSCode keeps crashing - new M4 MBP. All the system log errors are present exactly as they were and my USB-C dock with Ethernet port still doesn't work.

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Post by bradgessler »

rcarmo wrote: post #220
bradgessler wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be one thing if they excessively rounded and padded the windows, but they shipped with a bunch of different padding and border radii. So far I’ve counted 4 different borders, and I’m sure there’s more.

Yeah, 4 different corner radius sizes is where I’m at too. Won’t be surprised if there are more.

I just counted 5 different radii in Apple’s apps alone. I also discovered they space the window control buttons in all sorts of different spots to, so it’s even more insane than just multiple radii.

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Post by nixpulvis »

spartanatreyu wrote: post #310
rcleveng wrote: post #156

I always considered the butterfly keyboard[1] the point at which Apple's design system jumped the shark as it focused on it's own aesthetics vs. building quality and reliable products. Funny enough, it's the only time period since 1999 that I was apple free for a while. My MBP broke. I've previously had a butterfly keyboard on my work mac, and it got replaced on a regular bases. While unfortunate for a work computer,…

> Seeing that Apple's returning to it's "design roots" There's a very important and relevant design quote from Steve Jobs that keeps popping up in my head: https://mastodon.world/@lensco/115184866965741757

When Steve died, so did the Apple we all knew and loved.

I worked at Apple in the years shortly after his death, and was trying to convince myself this wasn't true, but it is.

Tim should find someone smart and willing to take a real look at the company and ceed power to the next generation.

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Post by etempleton »

viraptor wrote: post #293
basisword wrote: post #266

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The biggest surprise to me from this whole beta period is that a significant number of people used Launchpad. I have absolutely zero idea why when Spotlight has existed for more than 20 years. Why would you ever want to click and page through a giant iPhone screen on a desktop/laptop computer?

Because I vaguely remember that one icon I use every other month, but can't recall the name. The icons are also ordered by installation time, so it's easy to jump to the most recent ones. I use it rarely, but sometimes I'm happy it's there.

Exactly this. Most of the time I use spotlight like everyone else.

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Post by divan »

smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

Training/preparing users for upcoming AR glasses interfaces?

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Post by Aurornis »

stouset wrote: post #70
joshstrange wrote: post #50

I'm normally on about 1 year delay on upgrading macOS for a multitude of reasons. I might not wait the full year but something else will have to force me to upgrade within the first few months. I'd heard from people who were running the betas that it's not ready and they are surprised Tahoe wasn't delayed. No way I'm upgrading any time soon to Apple's least cared for OS with a change this big (and this untested).

I'll be honest, I hear this every single time. But I've never delayed upgrading, and I've never regretted it. That's not to say every upgrade has been a strict improvement, but going back to my first Mac at 10.4 (Tiger) I've never wished I had stayed on an older version. We'll see how I feel after going to Tahoe, maybe this will be the one that breaks the trend. Windows, on the other hand…

> But I've never delayed upgrading, and I've never regretted it.

I was the same way for until one of the upgrades, I forget which, broke resume from suspend about 10-20% of the time for my combination of laptop and monitor. Every morning I’d get a sense of dread when I tried to open the laptop to see if today was a day where I’d get to pick up where I left off or if I was in for a crash and reboot as soon as I tried to use the laptop.

I thought for sure it would be fixed with one of the point updates, but it went on for the better part of a year.

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Post by tom_ »

timeon wrote: post #206
cassianoleal wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What evidence do you have that they are trying to do that?

I remember when there was option to run any application. With Sequoia there are only 2 options: App Store; App store + Known developers. Third option was removed. You can still run other apps but you need to manually approve them with ~3 popups where first option is "move to Bin". You need to do this after every OS or App update. I wonder when this option will be removed as well.

It's been missing since at least Big Sur, so if they're going to go any further they do seem to be taking their time over it.
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