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Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by hoistbypetard »

gambiting wrote: post #255
fredley wrote: post #250

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The best time to delete Facebook was many years ago. The second best time is now.

Unfortunately, many of the old forums for various non-IT-related hobbies have disappeared and moved over to facebook groups and there is no alternative as such. Discord is great for anything related to software or hardware with computers, there are some fantastic communities, but if you are into cars or mountain biking or watches or fellwalking/hiking etc......you really don't have any alternative to facebook. I'm tr…

I disagree about the goodness of discord (and facebook) compared to old style forums or (better yet) mailing lists with archives.

Searching the forum archives is much worse with facebook, slack or discord than it ever was with even the jankiest phpbb forum or mailman list. Hell, before they grew it up, Yahoo! groups were better from that perspective. And a big part of what made forums for either tech or non-tech hobbies so nice was the ability to search and reference prior discussions.

I was actually hopeful that "login with facebook" and "login with discord" would bring those more search-friendly alternatives back a little bit, but so far I haven't seen it.

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by bird0861 »

chrisweekly wrote: post #277
supplied_demand wrote: post #258

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They are slow-playing the promise of what AI can, should, and will accomplish for us. Nadella said this yesterday at YC’s AI Startup School: == “The real test of AI,” Nadella said, “is whether it can help solve everyday problems — like making healthcare, education, and paperwork faster and more efficient.” “If you’re going to use energy, you better have social permission to use it,” he said. “We just can’t consume en…

Thanks. I agree w the things Nadella said there. But it rings pretty hollow, given how hard every MSFT product is pushing AI. What would it look like if they weren't "slow-playing" it?

Right, I can't sustain for a moment the idea that the guy who fumbled Recall like a stack of wet fish dipped in baby oil is actually a wise sage full of caution. I permit myself one foolish idea a day and that's not going to be the one for any day of the week.

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Post by alexthehurst »

figassis wrote: post #132
smeej wrote: post #83

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There was an even briefer moment where there was no such thing as status updates. You didn't have a "wall." The point wasn't to post about your own life. You could go leave public messages on other people's profiles. And you could poke them. And that was about it. I remember complaining like hell when the wall came out, that it was the beginning of the end. But this was before publicly recording your own thoughts som…

Oh wow, I’d even forgotten about pokes. Thanks for that trip down memory lane.

Still a supported feature! You can find it if you dig around in the menus long enough.

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Post by anonymars »

exabrial wrote: post #284

Silicon Valley has a problem with one word: consent. What stinks is the original concept: keeping up with disperate friends, its pretty awesome. I enjoy seeing my friends' kids grow up even though I don't really know them.

Whatever do you mean? WhatsApp asks consent before hoovering up my contact info.

Oh, what's that, I can't actually initiate any conversations without giving that up? Well, that's just the free market, baby. Use something else if you don't like it.

You're telling me that all over the world WhatsApp is basically mandatory to communicate with most people and businesses? Well in this land of freedom, network effects cannot stand up to my Free Market Principles good sir!

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Post by p2detar »

krapp wrote: post #298
huhkerrf wrote: post #294

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This, sadly, just doesn't live up to reality. It wasn't the technical users that made Facebook popular. It was college students, and not the CS ones. I remember, I was there. As for Instagram, again, I was there. Had that been a platform primarily for a technical audience, it wouldn't have taken it off. The one platform you can say this about is Twitter. That, undoubtedly, started off with a much more tech audience,…

Alternatives such as the Fediverse are doing just fine, despite HN's categorical rejection of anything that doesn't match the big corporate platforms in scale and revenue as "viable."

My impression about Fedi is that it’s much bigger than most people think it is, but those who are in it don’t like talking about it a lot.

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Post by p2detar »

add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #307
polishdude20 wrote: post #301

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I keep my Facebook account mainly because I use messenger for a lot of interactions with friends. I never really go on Facebook itself. I don't get the self congratulatory fest that goes on when deleting your account. I get the same feeling and outcome by just not using it.

You're still enabling them in a way that others who have deleted their accounts are not. You're contributing to the network effect problem.

Maybe relationships are more important to GP than attitude. I know what GP means and I was even recently asked to join a Messenger group of friends. I declined but only because I have other comm channels and I dropped FB and Messenger years ago.

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Post by [deleted] »

notsydonia wrote: post #163

It's also a huge danger as the system FB uses to tag and categorize photos is clearly flawed. example: Meta took a business page I ran that had over 150K followers offline because of a photo that violated their 'strict anti-pornography' etc etc policies. The picture was of a planet - Saturn - and it took weeks of the most god-awful to and fro with (mostly) bots to get them to revoke the ban - their argument was that…

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Post by Eddy_Viscosity2 »

chrisweekly wrote: post #277
supplied_demand wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are slow-playing the promise of what AI can, should, and will accomplish for us. Nadella said this yesterday at YC’s AI Startup School: == “The real test of AI,” Nadella said, “is whether it can help solve everyday problems — like making healthcare, education, and paperwork faster and more efficient.” “If you’re going to use energy, you better have social permission to use it,” he said. “We just can’t consume en…

Thanks. I agree w the things Nadella said there. But it rings pretty hollow, given how hard every MSFT product is pushing AI. What would it look like if they weren't "slow-playing" it?

Indeed, it is often the case that what powerful people say is very different from what they do.

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Post by imhoguy »

coef2 wrote: post #16

I miss the old days when Facebook was simply a fun way to reconnect with friend and family who lived far away. Unfortunately, those days are gone. It feels like an over engineered attention-hogging system that collects a large amount of data and risks people's mental health along the way.

From early days of FB I remember it nagged to read all my addressbook/contacts. It was always data hungry. It wouldn't grow so quickly and big without gray ethics.

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Post by p0w3n3d »

slazaro wrote: post #299
nelox wrote: post #194

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Venus, in her naked glory, I could understand at a stretch, but Saturn?

Somebody liked Saturn enough to put a ring on it.

Some Saturn photos you can find on duckduckgo look like a woman's breast if you're AI enough
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