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Two new PebbleOS watches

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Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by evolve2k »

Eric, I’m interested in what you learnt picking up a 10 year old open hardware project.

I’m especially interested in the “revival” nature of this project. How did staying mostly true to the original vision guide you practically?

You mentioned briefly that some apps may have stopped working as they attempt to hit now no existent url endpoints. Least of which is likely the old official pebble endpoints.

Have you done any design work as a revival project such that the project will be more robust in future. Eg 50 years from now, if things didn’t pan out and your company is still here, such that the watches and their apps are all that bit more resilient?

Curious as to your thoughts on designing in longevity of serviceability into this reboot given you can feel that yourself.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by Groxx »

poisonborz wrote: post #308

Any chance of wireless charging? I can't imagine it being so complicated or expensive... tho most smartwatches come with custom pins so there has to be a reason. Worst aspect of these watches are the custom charging cradles you have to lug around when travelling. Hell, even usb-c with some cap/sliding door mechanism would be better.

While I really do like wireless charging for watches (no exposed electrical contacts == easier waterproofing and no corrosion to worry about, and the battery capacities are so low that slow charging barely matters): 2 and 4 pin magnetic charging cables are extremely common in smart watches, it's what pebble used before, and it sounds like what they're using for these as well. "Standard pebble charger" is listed in the tech-specs, which likely means the 2-pin version.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by ahel »

robocat wrote: post #259
pizzafeelsright wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your explanation is reason enough to cancel. I have experienced enough hardware fails the day after the warranty to avoid purchasing anything that I do not consider disposable. I still have my Vector watch which suffered the same fate as Pebble. I am curious about the risk of a "at cost" replacement. I have avoided buying a FitBit to replace my existing FitBit because their warranty is also limited to "one year" whic…

> curious about the risk of a "at cost" replacement You can't tell consumers the raw manufacturing cost because people act weird when they are told it: they usually assume the "markup" is profits. They assume that they're getting ripped off because most people don't understand development costs or overheads and they always argue that any profit is too much. This problem can't be fixed. Apart from the risk of scammers…

Hey, I completely agree and I also suffer from this same bias: it's ruining me from enjoying stuff that I would like to buy but in the end I just give up because it feels that any profit is a scam. What kind of resource can I study for me to understand and accept other people making profits?

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by z3t4 »

Avamander wrote: post #242
Zetaphor wrote: post #239

As someone who was a huge fan of the original Pebble series, it's hard to get excited about this offering when compared to the alternatives available today with more features and a cheaper price. I'm currently wearing the BangleJS v2 [0] which has the following going for it, all for $90USD: * 1.3 inch 176x176 always-on 3 bit colour LCD display (LPM013M126) with backlight * Full touchscreen (6H hardness glass) * GPS/G…

Unfortunately it's the software that determines how good such a device is to use. What's currently considered the best firmware for the Bangle? I will also note that backlit LCD is vastly inferior to e-paper in smartwatches. Size of the watch also matters, there are some tradeoffs you have to make.

ohh, I always thought my Bangle had e-inc display because the clock will last several months on one charge, and the display is always on.

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Post by seltzered_ »

promiseofbeans wrote: post #292

I'm curious that the $150 ones has a barometer and compass, while the $225 one doesn't in favour of a heart rate monitor. Given that they're specifically saying you shouldn't use it as a sports watch, what use is an HRM, especially when compared to the utility of a compass and barometer/altimeter?

Possibly SoC differences or space limitations.

If I recall correctly, the original Pebble had a Compass (which may not have even been used until a OS overhaul later on) but the Pebble 2 SE didn't. (https://www.reddit.com/r/pebble/comments/4kz7ch/why_pebble_i...)

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by ActivePattern »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #305
KAMSPioneer wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gross and net profit are each their own concept: https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/101314/what-are-dif...

What they call "gross profit" is not profit , by definition. It's certainly useful to track $revenue-$cost_of_goods, but you can't call that profit. People are free to use words incorrectly, but they shouldn't expect anyone else to go along with them.

Who chooses the "correct" use of words? Is it you? Wikipedia disagrees with you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_margin. Maybe you should make your own encyclopedia.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by kulahan »

ramses0 wrote: post #261
erohead wrote: post #32

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Something fancy

re: glass... please please learn from that awful shadow curvature issue on the pebble time (color). Seems like you did as the screens look blessedly flat! Congrats!

The post specifically addresses how they’re changing the screen curvature

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by [deleted] »

debunn wrote: post #68
erohead wrote: post #3

I'll be hanging out here - happy to answer any questions you have!

Any ideas what the screen refresh rate is going to be at this point? All the screenshots don't have time that includes seconds, and having a watch face that can update at least every second would be a requirement for me. (I know e-ink displays can have fast refresh rates, like the 60Hz / fps Daylight computer - but that may not be cost effective / battery efficient here?)

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