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Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by JoshTriplett »

dreamcompiler wrote: post #55
JoshTriplett wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Core Time 2 mentions heart-rate monitoring. Have you considered also adding an oximeter? The comparison chart, under "sensors", doesn't mention the compass under the Core Time 2; does the Core Time 2 drop the compass? A 3D magnetometer seems like a useful sensor for orientation purposes. Is there a light sensor, to allow automatically disabling the backlight when there's enough ambient light and enabling it when…

You cannot put oximetry in a watch without getting sued by Masimo. Just ask Apple.

The heart rate sensor patents were ruled unpatentable:

https://www.tomsguide.com/wellness/smartwatches/apple-watch-...

> This week, the US Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit upheld the previous verdict of the Patent Trial and Appeal Board that concluded all three of AliveCor’s patents were unpatentable. This is generally the outcome when courts conclude that patents are either obvious or too generic to enforce.

The case over the oximeter functionality is still ongoing, but with luck it'll go the same way.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by JoshTriplett »

apparent wrote: post #56
JoshTriplett wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Core Time 2 mentions heart-rate monitoring. Have you considered also adding an oximeter? The comparison chart, under "sensors", doesn't mention the compass under the Core Time 2; does the Core Time 2 drop the compass? A 3D magnetometer seems like a useful sensor for orientation purposes. Is there a light sensor, to allow automatically disabling the backlight when there's enough ambient light and enabling it when…

The 360° view on the product page shows the charger interface on the back of the watches. Definitely not USB-C!

Ah, when it said "standard Pebble charger" I incorrectly assumed it was a charging port, rather than something like pogo pins. What's on the back of the watch seems pretty reasonable.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by apparent »

margalabargala wrote: post #44
apparent wrote: post #33

This blog post [1] makes it seem like the cheaper model has a barometer and compass, but the more expensive one does not. Anyone know if that is true? 1: https://ericmigi.com/blog/introducing-two-new-pebbleos-watch...

Everything appears to point that way, yes. This thread is full of people complaining how these aren't like their preferred watches, in terms of design, face shape, no GPS, etc. I think this is a much more valid criticism in that their expensive flagship watch is not like their cheaper watch.

Is there anything else lacking? I ordered the color one without much thought and only saw the barometer/compass bit afterward.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by thekoma »

solarkraft wrote: post #57

Core 2 Duo is a pretty funny name. Are you going to sell replacement parts this time? I was immensely disappointed to see the initial watches being pretty repairable in theory, but no parts being sold. It was marketed as a tinkerer‘s device after all. I’m wearing my Pebble Time Steel right now - and quite like it. Haven’t found anything better. It could use some better activity tracking, but the worst thing about it…

> Core 2 Duo is a pretty funny name.

I remember there was also an Intel processor with the same name.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by itomato »

jsheard wrote: post #51
varbhat wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was interested in NFC payments using a smartwatch. Do these watches support NFC payment? I didn't see any mention of it.

These use standard watch straps, so you could put them on one of those NFC-payment straps as a workaround.

Chameleon Ultra on the band

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by debunn »

erohead wrote: post #3

I'll be hanging out here - happy to answer any questions you have!

Any ideas what the screen refresh rate is going to be at this point? All the screenshots don't have time that includes seconds, and having a watch face that can update at least every second would be a requirement for me.

(I know e-ink displays can have fast refresh rates, like the 60Hz / fps Daylight computer - but that may not be cost effective / battery efficient here?)

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by 1024core »

varbhat wrote: post #9
erohead wrote: post #3

I'll be hanging out here - happy to answer any questions you have!

I was interested in NFC payments using a smartwatch. Do these watches support NFC payment? I didn't see any mention of it.

The chip inside claims to support Bluetooth Low Energy, Bluetooth mesh, NFC, Thread and Zigbee. Maybe someone can hack together a payments app using the NFC?

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by starttoaster »

thekoma wrote: post #66
solarkraft wrote: post #57

Core 2 Duo is a pretty funny name. Are you going to sell replacement parts this time? I was immensely disappointed to see the initial watches being pretty repairable in theory, but no parts being sold. It was marketed as a tinkerer‘s device after all. I’m wearing my Pebble Time Steel right now - and quite like it. Haven’t found anything better. It could use some better activity tracking, but the worst thing about it…

> Core 2 Duo is a pretty funny name. I remember there was also an Intel processor with the same name.

I'm guessing that is why they said it was a funny name.
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