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Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by anonymouse008 »

scarface_74 wrote: post #265
JKCalhoun wrote: post #71

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> They need to go back and read the Newton’s postmortem. With every new detail about this devices release - it’s becoming clearer and clearer this device just is not ready. In fact their actions suggest they already know this. It feels like Apple felt obliged to show .. something, anything .. after so many years of work (7 years? Just a guess). I think this limited appointment-only release is part of a cautious wait-…

> They need to go back and read the Newton’s postmortem. With every new detail about this devices release - it’s becoming clearer and clearer this device just is not ready. Neither was the Mac that sold abysmally for years and Apple was propped up by the Apple // series And neither was the iPod. They sold less than 1 million in the first two years. Or the Apple iPhone that barely captured 1% market share tte first ye…

Number of unit sales isn’t the measure of success for a new paradigm. Everyone knows this. The quality of ideas and the affordances to achieve human aims is what makes a success.

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Post by FormerBandmate »

hospitalJail wrote: post #273
georgespencer wrote: post #223

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> my marketing class taught us to look at everything Apple does under the view of the best marketers in the world. I think there's a risk that your marketing class is being taught by folks who have a limited grasp of how trivial the discipline of marketing can be when a company's products -- in Apple's case: iPhone, MacBooks Pro & Air, iPad, AirPods, Apple Watch -- rank among the leading products in their categories…

This is some blatant rhetoric. I cannot help but to call this out when I see it. > rank among the leading products in their categories by nearly any measure, from consumer satisfaction to performance benchmarks. When you say it generically like this, it has no meaning. Among? Top 50% You could say this about any company. Its marketing jargon from the best in the world at marketing. This is no different than when they…

Apple utterly destroys every Android manufacturer in Geekbench and it’s competitive in AnTuTu, ahead of everyone for half the year

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Post by sleepybrett »

hghid wrote: post #197

Slightly tangential rant, but is anybody else becoming frustrated with the process of buying Apple products in Apple stores? For me, it started with the Apple Watch - I knew which one I wanted and was ready just to head down and buy one, but I was forced to sit through an entire "fitting" with patronising explanation on how to use the knob on the the side. Recently, I wanted to buy a new Phone. Again, I knew the one…

two months ago i walked in with a macbook pro spec i wanted, they confirmed they had one in stock. We did the payment dance and i walked out. Total time in store ~5m.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by jayd16 »

threeseed wrote: post #220
Jarmsy wrote: post #182

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All I've seen so far suggests they're almost entirely focused on virtual 2d screens floating in 3d space, and not other virtual 3d objects at all.

They had many WWDC sessions covering 3D objects especially with the Unity integration [1] and their Reality Composer Pro [2] tool. Both were covered during the keynote. And if you look on Youtube there are countless videos of third party developers developing 3D apps. It's just that they are positioning the device as a spatial computer i.e. something you use to get real work done. And right now for 99% of people that…

I think you're right to pick up on the fact that 99% of digital content out there is 2D and they're leaning into that. It's a known quantity and easier to market.

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Post by sleepybrett »

rchaud wrote: post #218
hghid wrote: post #197

Slightly tangential rant, but is anybody else becoming frustrated with the process of buying Apple products in Apple stores? For me, it started with the Apple Watch - I knew which one I wanted and was ready just to head down and buy one, but I was forced to sit through an entire "fitting" with patronising explanation on how to use the knob on the the side. Recently, I wanted to buy a new Phone. Again, I knew the one…

> The VR headset is a case in point - if I want to be guided through the process, then I will ask for that. The reason this is done is to: a) limit bad online reviews due to ill fitting headsets or unfamiliarity with the controls b) to ensure that people looking to buy it have their expectations managed c) to give it the upscale, prestige feeling of going to a tailor for a fitted suit. Useless theater for a tech prod…

Also probably because of the prescription lens inserts.

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Post by crazygringo »

hghid wrote: post #197

Slightly tangential rant, but is anybody else becoming frustrated with the process of buying Apple products in Apple stores? For me, it started with the Apple Watch - I knew which one I wanted and was ready just to head down and buy one, but I was forced to sit through an entire "fitting" with patronising explanation on how to use the knob on the the side. Recently, I wanted to buy a new Phone. Again, I knew the one…

No, I have no idea what you're talking about:

> it would take half an hour or so to get somebody over

That's only the case for genius bar appointments or an extended consultation when they're super busy or something. If you just want to buy a phone you've already decided on, you ask the nearest person and they grab it and you pay for it.

It sounds like there was maybe just a miscommunication in your case. There is no trend here.

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Post by sleepybrett »

justinator wrote: post #241
threeseed wrote: post #226

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> I can just buy quite a few nice monitors But you're not taking those monitors anywhere.

Is it really all that hard? https://sidetrak.com/products/swivel-pro-triple-13-3

... you cant be serious.

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Post by teruakohatu »

justinator wrote: post #241
threeseed wrote: post #226

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> I can just buy quite a few nice monitors But you're not taking those monitors anywhere.

Is it really all that hard? https://sidetrak.com/products/swivel-pro-triple-13-3

That is a very clever solution.

I have seen a person take out a standard moniter, laptop stand, keyboard and mouse from their carry on and set it up on an airport table.

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Post by sleepybrett »

bee_rider wrote: post #196
stevenwoo wrote: post #44

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It sure sounds like anyone in a household can use it but if anyone has a different eyeglass corrective lens prescription (very likely unless everyone still has 20/20 vision) from the primary user it’s a very substandard experience.

I suck at optics, and optics is a hard topic, so I say it will full humility: I’m always surprised that headset manufacturer can’t correct for most of these vision issues in software.

i don't think that is at all possible.

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Post by mft_ »

hghid wrote: post #197

Slightly tangential rant, but is anybody else becoming frustrated with the process of buying Apple products in Apple stores? For me, it started with the Apple Watch - I knew which one I wanted and was ready just to head down and buy one, but I was forced to sit through an entire "fitting" with patronising explanation on how to use the knob on the the side. Recently, I wanted to buy a new Phone. Again, I knew the one…

They seem to inject additional people into their processes, for reasons I can't discern but I'm sure exist.

For example, even buying something as simple as an Airtag means waiting for a random employee to be free, who then gets one for you, only to then wait for another different employee to be free to allow you to pay for it. Maybe that's just about theft prevention?

My one "Genius Bar" experience (recently) in Munich was really crappy - told to check in, then told to wait by a table where I was ignored; when I re-approached someone, told to wait somewhere else... and watching the flow of things, it became very apparent that my 'appointment' had no value - I was helped in a queue after people who'd just walked in.

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