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Post by AndrewKemendo »

slaw wrote: post #309
z3ugma wrote: post #279

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This is very interesting, but it assumes the predicate that separated apartments with individual kitchens and bathrooms are the right way for people to live. And 1 BR and studios at that. These are buildings designed for communal occupancy as offices, why not lean into that as residences? Think like a 1-2 floor cooperative housing for a community of 50-100 people in 25-50 family units. Everyone gets private bedrooms,…

Boarding houses are banned in US due to zoning laws.

I guess we should just give up then right?

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Post by seanw444 »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #310
seanw444 wrote: post #305

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Which is stupid. It's everyone's right. One side just understands the importance of it, the other tries their hardest to throw it in the trash.

Yours is a naiive position positioning itself as enlightened Firearms are worthless without organization and there is no actual revolutionary force in America even at the seed stage that is approximating anything near even Taliban levels of insurgent capabilities. Your 2A “movement” has neither the coherent holistic political philosophy nor the competent leadership needed to actually create a viable social structure…

It is so weird how you guys belittle those that appreciate 2A as though it's not useful until we have "Taliban-levels of capability and organization" but if we did, you'd immediately cry "insurgency! This is too dangerous for our democracy!"

There's no winning with you people. That's why the 2A movement is progressing finally. You're impossible to please.

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Post by dumbotron »

sangnoir wrote: post #245
dumbotron wrote: post #243

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There's an argument that you want consistency across the state. Having snowflake jurisdictions is a headache for businesses.

Cities can compete against each other to attract businesses - no? If businesses can deal with a patchwork of sales taxes and building codes, they can handle other bylaws just fine. These laws have the hallmark signs of a partisan power-grab as they are limited to a number of on red-meat issues.

> Cities can compete against each other to attract businesses - no?

We've seen this with Walmarts. They get cities to compete for their stores. Amazon did it for HQ2. The problem is the winner's curse. The winning city will often bid so low they take a net loss.

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Post by dumbotron »

zbrozek wrote: post #252
dumbotron wrote: post #232

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> Some of their stats resemble third world countries. Have you walked through the TL? Comparing California and Texas can be interesting because the states are both dominated by a single party, so you see how both ideologies can go wrong. With Texas being like a developing country, I'm reminded of the winter power outage. They love free markets. It's not worth it to harden the electric grid for an event that rare that…

I live in the SFBA and have far worse uptime and far higher prices than Texas. The smugness from Californians wrt/grid does not make any sense to me. I would trade for Texas electrical grid performance in less than a heartbeat. There was a five hour long outage on Monday while the weather was perfectly lovely. And more than a week cumulative outage in March when the weather was merely a little wet.

I'm not being smug about CA's grid. It has rolling blackout on hot days. Its problem is it doesn't let anyone build power plants.

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Post by [deleted] »

seanw444 wrote: post #312
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yours is a naiive position positioning itself as enlightened Firearms are worthless without organization and there is no actual revolutionary force in America even at the seed stage that is approximating anything near even Taliban levels of insurgent capabilities. Your 2A “movement” has neither the coherent holistic political philosophy nor the competent leadership needed to actually create a viable social structure…

It is so weird how you guys belittle those that appreciate 2A as though it's not useful until we have "Taliban-levels of capability and organization" but if we did, you'd immediately cry "insurgency! This is too dangerous for our democracy!" There's no winning with you people. That's why the 2A movement is progressing finally. You're impossible to please.

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Post by toss1 »

refurb wrote: post #296
toss1 wrote: post #294

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>>California’s gun control laws suppress the rights of many people Seriously? I have a relative who lives in CA and bought a pair of AR-15s a few years ago, just because... I've never seen any serious gun proposal that would actually infringe on any actual right. They are all about ensuring that background checks apply to all sales, waiting periods, red flags, etc. People seem to forget that allowing any mentally ill…

Hand gun roster and red flag laws are two good examples. Allowing the police to seize weapons based on suspicion is unconstitutional. CA only recently started allowing concealed carry after the Supreme Court forced them.

Again, what part of "Well Regulated Militia" do you not understand?

None of these would be restrictions under a non-absolutist interpretation ignoring the entire start of the 2A. Granted, this does prevail now after decades of relentless promotion. That does not make it right.

Red flag laws are for people who have actually demonstrated their inability to control their own violence. There are a number of incidents of mass shooters who would have been prevented or slowed by such laws. And again, these people would be drummed out of any well-regulated militia.

Similarly, regulating or registering certain types of weapons does not seem out of bounds in a well-regulated militia, especially in urban environments.

I do have some problem with allowing police to seize weapons on suspicion, depending on the definition of suspicion, and the process to get them back. There are obvious circumstances where it should be not only allowed but required, and others where it is blatant state overreach.

Concealed carry, again in the context of a regulated militia — how is that a problem? You may have to show that you are armed.

Remember, even in the military itself, while weapons are issued and frequently used, they don't have people carrying any kind of weapon everywhere at any time, e.g., [0].

Again, the stated right is NOT any person of any level of mental or skilled competence can have access to any weapon at any time and any place.

It is: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

The very first words are about regulation.

And the current results are proving the idiocy of a policy of unfettered access: 51 years of war 101,813 deaths

3 years of US gun deaths 133,759

US Death count in War

Vietnam War 1955-75 58,281

Korean War 1950-53 36,516

Iraq War 2003-11 4,614

Afghanistan War 2001-21 2,402

US gun deaths 2019-21 133,759

Every other western nation has similar levels of video games, mental illness, or whatever else you want to blame it on. Yet this only happens with any frequency here.

So, again, considering the ACTUAL constitutional intent of a well-regulated militia, what restrictions ACTUALLY INFRINGE ON RIGHTS OF SANE AND RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE.

I still have not seen a single instance of any actual legislator actually introducing a law that would broadly prohibit responsible gun ownership.

Show me one.

[0] https://www.military.com/pcs/can-you-carry-gun-military-base...

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Post by Timon3 »

slap wrote: post #282
shjake wrote: post #221

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It might be the outcome of racist policies or general racist attitudes but they are statistically correct. There is a high correlation between between ethnic or racial makeup of a certain area and crime and gun violence. I’m not sure simply handwaving this by calling everyone who points that out a ‘racist’ is the most productive attitude… Generally the same applies to poverty though which is probably a more direct in…

>>Generally the same applies to poverty though which is probably a more direct indicator than race. Not the case in the US, poverty is a bad indicator, race is a good one. Poorest white crime rates are lower than the richest blacks.

Mind sharing the statistics you got this from?

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Post by toss1 »

seanw444 wrote: post #307
refurb wrote: post #296

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Hand gun roster and red flag laws are two good examples. Allowing the police to seize weapons based on suspicion is unconstitutional. CA only recently started allowing concealed carry after the Supreme Court forced them.

There was just a vote in SCOTUS to attempt to put an end to NY and CA's last-ditch attempts to deprive people of obtaining CCW permits without ridiculous requirements and mind boggling wait times. Also, yes, while you may be able to get ARs, you're subject to dumb arbitrary restrictions[1] on what you can put on that AR. And finally, CA and NY are doing their best to ban body armor. That makes me laugh, because now y…

>>deprive people of obtaining CCW permits without ridiculous requirements and mind boggling wait times.

Again, in the context of A WELL REGULATED MILITIA, what is the problem with qualifications and a wait time? (yes, if they are actually egregious, it can be an effective ban).

Beyond that, what is so mandatory about concealed carry? It is the right to bear arms -in a well-regulated context- not the right of any mentally-ill person to sneak arms into any place at any time.

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Post by CapstanRoller »

ejb999 wrote: post #249
CapstanRoller wrote: post #211

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Why are you putting the onus on victims to befriend and "convert" their oppressors? Seriously, what the fuck .

When someone disagree's with your point of view, you are thus a victim? I think I see the problem here.

>disagree

Trans people are having their civil rights stripped away, and some are being murdered.

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Post by CapstanRoller »

Timon3 wrote: post #317
slap wrote: post #282

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>>Generally the same applies to poverty though which is probably a more direct indicator than race. Not the case in the US, poverty is a bad indicator, race is a good one. Poorest white crime rates are lower than the richest blacks.

Mind sharing the statistics you got this from?

He got them from 4chan.
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