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DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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I think this price increase is honestly pretty fair, but I really wish they'd show side by side prices, and offer me a tool to see what my total increase will be.

Why do you think the price increase is fair? If anything I would expect it to go down as computation and memory get cheaper.

Everything from wages to electricity to real estate to the CPUs themselves have gotten more expensive.

Saying it's just computation and memory is ignoring 99% of what it takes to run that business.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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For the fellow European (edit: & US) HN crowd I can highly recommend Hetzner's Cloud offerings: https://www.hetzner.com/cloud

The servers (I just tried booting the second-cheapest one) do seem much faster than DigitalOcean's and in my case they're actually cheaper, even without the coming price increase. However, one thing I noticed is that you have to pay extra for a floating IP (€3 + VAT) which is AFAIK free with DigitalOcean—or at least I didn't notice in on my bill. Something to keep in mind. I will probably switch over anyway.

Just switched everything over. I can live without the floating IP for now. I now pay slightly less than what I did at DigitalOcean while doubling the specs. Thanks for the tip!

The only problem is that now those other comments made me consider Contabo...

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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To give some hobbyist level price increase numbers: I'm currently running two basic droplets at 8gb RAM and 4vCPU, which is basically just enough resources for a proper dev kubernetes cluster with Promethueus, Loki, 5-6 apps, etc (4gb 4vCPU is not enough, I tried). I also run a third 1gb1vcpu management droplet outside the cluster as well as a load balancer in front of my API gateway and a spaces instance to dump bac…

I think Scaleway is pretty cheap

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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I've been on digital ocean for maybe ten years but I now want a place where I can run a mail server. That rules out digital ocean because thei IP address blocks are on too many blacklists. I'd be curious to hear other suggestions (but not aws, whose pricing model is too complex).

Look into some kind office internet ISP, who offers static IP-s. At least my experience with those is good. You probably need to make exception in Spamhaus PBL list ( end-user IP address ranges), I haven't seen any problems after removal. If that isn't possible, go with some solid colocation (old school company, who don't offer cloud services).

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting. Looks like more than half price. Are their interface / setup as easy as DO droplets? What's the catch? Are DO just expensive because they are market leaders?

I use them and they’re a joy to use. Dashboard is just as simple. No managed databases or kubernetes clusters though. Hoping that’s in the works as it will really level up their offering if they do.

They have developed drivers for Kubernetes though (CSI, CCM and Cluster Autoscaler). There are some good projects on GitHub to set it up with Terraform. I guess a real managed service will come at some point.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Prices should be going down , not up. Infact, I would expect out of my cloud provider a commitment to drop prices by some percentage each year. A $100 workload from last year should not cost more than a $100 this year. We are still on exponential curves for compute, storage and DC bandwidth.

So right now, if you were choosing an on-demand cloud provider (like digital ocean), which would you chose if your requirement would be expecting that next year your bill would be lower than it is today?

You know the answer. Which cloud providers routinely drop prices, which ones stay flat and which ones sneak in price increases?

You cant trust a cloud provider that raises prices. They are either a) mis-managed and can't calculate their own costs b) greedy and short sided or c) not in charge of their own prices. None of those qualities should be someone you enter into a relationship on this magnitude.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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HN, the place where almost everyone makes at least 120k TC, with many of you hitting 300k. Yet a 1$ increase after 12 years is unreasonable ?

No, sending a vague email that makes me waste my time to figure out how much more I have to pay them is unreasonable. They could have just included prices side by side and a sample invoice under the new system with the last month's usage

Does AWS do this ?

Unless your using DO at a very large scale the pricing difference isn't significant.

I personally use AWS now since my skills with AWS are useful at work as well. That's the biggest perk of AWS to me.

At the same time I've always found AWS to have convoluted confusing billing, at least DO is straight forward even if it's gone up a buck or so.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Looks like Linode is still doing $5 nodes. Hopefully there's not a similar announcement there in the near future. https://www.linode.com/pricing/

OVH has an option for $3.50 (which I think is _cheaper_ than it was when I signed up a couple years ago, and I don't _think_ I'm looking at CAD pricing)... Compare: OVH: https://us.ovhcloud.com/vps/ 1 vCore, Memory 2 GB, Storage 20 GB SSD SATA, Public bandwidth 100Mbps [ed. - "unlimited traffic"], $3.50 DO: https://www.digitalocean.com/try/new-pricing The new Droplet priced at $4/month has 1 vCPU, 512MB memory, 500GB…

As I understood it, the difference between the $2.50 and $3.50 Vultr VPSes is an IPv4 address. I don't know why that page doesn't explain. Maybe it's changed.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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For the fellow European (edit: & US) HN crowd I can highly recommend Hetzner's Cloud offerings: https://www.hetzner.com/cloud

I'm using Oracle Cloud always free tier, and I've got 4x VMs each with 1 Arm CPU, 6gb memory and 50gb disk. Free forever. You get a small amount of object storage and some free database (nosql/sql) but I'm mainly here for the 4 VMs to run a completely free k0s Kubernetes cluster.

How do they make money off this?

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Seems like the $4 droplet is a smoke screen hiding price increases. I'm a long time DO customer. I wish they would have just said "prices are going up" and listed a comparison of the old price with the new increased price. In their new price list, they do not list the old price... so you cant tell if they are going up and down. Because the article starts off with the $4 droplet announcement, you get a feeling that th…

Ive quit them long time ago when they did not adjust price to compete. They also had for a few years, inferior performance per dollar as others in same range.

All that behaviour let linode and vultr flourish

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