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DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Prices should be going down , not up. Infact, I would expect out of my cloud provider a commitment to drop prices by some percentage each year. A $100 workload from last year should not cost more than a $100 this year. We are still on exponential curves for compute, storage and DC bandwidth.

Computing may be cheap, but the power to run it is only going one way.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you think the price increase is fair? If anything I would expect it to go down as computation and memory get cheaper.

It is not like hardware costs are the only costs. My electricity costs are going to be nearly doubling shortly. They could be seeing the same thing. I wouldn't be surprised if employee retention/turnover is another issue they are facing.

Yeah, I thought this is surely to do with electricity prices. They have doubled or tripled in Europe recently.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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post #168

I think DigitalOcean is okay as a company, but I don't like the wording of this news item. > New DigitalOcean Pricing / customers using Droplets, Snapshots, Load Balancers, Floating IPs, and Custom Images will experience a change in prices They are dancing around the matter without using the word "increase". If instead the news was a price decrease, they would be screaming "decrease" loudly everywhere. > Introducing…

Standard marketing 101. Can't fault them for doing what every other company on the face of the earth does.

I moved to DO from Linode about 10 years ago for various reasons. One was their straight-forwardness and transparency, which felt like a breath of fresh air from Standard Marketing 1.0. Considering that, I think the previous poster is right to call out today's email as a disappointment.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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So, just to be clear, this is a 20% increase on the lowest tier, and a smaller increase on the more expensive options. I can't see how this change doesn't push their small (hobby) users away entirely. It sounds crazy, but this may actually push my personal usage into "AWS might be cheaper" territory.

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Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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post #208

Eh, I'm probably going to move to Hetzner or Linode anyway as apparently a lot of DO IPs are blacklisted for mail.

Vultr allows you to bring your own IP space and do BGP peering. Then any work you do to increase the reputation of the IP space will be portable across providers.

https://www.vultr.com/docs/configuring-bgp-on-vultr/

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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For the fellow European (edit: & US) HN crowd I can highly recommend Hetzner's Cloud offerings: https://www.hetzner.com/cloud

Oh I'll definitely try them out, I'm on DO and not very excited about them, those Hetzner prices look great! I'm a bit sad they don't have anything closer to the UK: I'll miss the 4ms ping to my DO VPS. EDIT: holy shit, I looked into Contabo mentioned below and it's even cheaper! €5 for 4 cores and 8 GB RAM, what's the catch?

A few months ago, I compiled this list to come up with cheap, mostly EU-based VPS providers: https://gist.github.com/derhuerst/4ef9a832e031bf82d6e640e2dd...

It doesn't take into account though: - update guarantees - quality of customer support (I had very bad experiences with Scaleway for example) - score normalisation across many instances, to compensate different loads on VM hosts into account

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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post #60

Has anybody heard of and formed an opinion on Contabo? I was searching for unmetered or high bandwidth offerings and ran across them. They have a cloud VPS for $7/mo with 4vCPU, 8GB RAM, and 32TB traffic.

Wow, that's about 1/5 of the price of my current DO test droplet. Think i am going to switch soon if there isn't a catch - i wonder why there is such a huge gap in prices? I wonder if you can go even lower as i've never heard of multiple companies mentioned in this thread, Hetzner being the other one that's about double this but half DO.

The catch is that you're comparing VPS prices to IaaS prices. They're similar and can be used for many of the same things but are not the same.

With the VPS, you'll be responsible for a lot of the things that the IaaS provider would otherwise handle. However, you can install Dokku/etc. on your VPS and run your own self-hosted IaaS and approximate what you would get from DO/Heroku.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've priced up DO as an alternative to AWS on several projects and it has never been cheaper once AWS discounts (reservations, spot) are applied correctly. You need to consume a relatively large amount of bandwidth before DO becomes cheaper, and even then a third party CDN is likely to be a better solution

What's the cost at the cross over though? If it switches at $10 worth of bandwidth, or even at $20, is that REALLY that much?

The $5 droplet includes the equivalent of $90 worth of AWS egress, although it is accounted somewhat differently.

An equivalent low usage machine on AWS in us-east (t3a.micro - 1GB / shared CPU) on spot instead costs around $2.16, almost 57% less.

So this is where bandwidth becomes interesting, especially in combination with an external CDN.

Say if you're hosting 100 low volume client sites where each client gets its own instance (sensible security choice), DO you'd be paying $284/mo. more than equivalent AWS config, or you could treat the $284 as a bandwidth allowance, leaving 3.155 TB egress in aggregate across all clients before DO/AWS are breakeven again.

If some/many of those client sites consume a lot of bandwidth, the equation quickly changes, but you need to start looking at edge hit rates of an individual application before attempting to make a meaningful comparison.

The last project I looked at this for included several high bandwidth sites with good edge hit rates on an external CDNs, and AWS still came in significantly cheaper

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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post #217

Yeah this was really lame. I had to go on Hacker News to figure out what was changing. Why do companies do crap like this? Does DigitalOcean realize there are other companies that are eating their lunch right now? Like, I'm less mad about the price increases and I'm more annoyed about the communication.

I got an email that explains the changes.
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