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Re: Steam has been banned in China

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Not really. The Iraq war was horrible and unnecessary and I doubt you’ll find too many people here who’ll say otherwise. But it was the past and it’s settled. China is happening now.

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Radical islamic terrorism was going on way before 2001.

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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That is one big false équivalence. The mistreatment of minorities by the CCP is not the same thing as the mistreatment of minorities by the USA. Or did I miss the news about the black lives matter forced sterilisations?

You missed the part where the USA killed off most of the native population of its western side and drove them off their lands, yes. Different times, but maybe that's just the thing to do to get to superpower status and China's just catching up.

You missed the part where you can openly discuss that in the US.

You even have politicians like Elizabeth Warren overblowing their native ancestry to gain an advantage.

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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I am European and not affiliated in any way with China. And don't want to whitewash them. Still, there is a double standard regarding China vs the Western World. While China gets (IMHO deserved) criticism for their territorial claims and human right abuse, the Iraq War (over 400k deaths) was "business as usual". The same goes with anti-pandemic restrictions - when it happens in China, it's an authoritarian rule. When…

We're not discussing the US, we're discussing the latest abuse of power by the CCP. That's where the link goes. Would you like to next make a false equivalence of US prison labor to slave labor in China? Because that's where this goes, every thread. Submit a link of the US' latest atrocity to HN. A world of tolerance allows and accepts the stories of violence perpetrated by all actors. The reason you are seeing so ma…

The commenter you replied to seemed to be comparing 2 situations. That seems normal to me. Comparing things seems to be great way to understand complex issues.

What makes the comment a wrong way to discuss? Is it a bad form of comparison for some reason?

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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Note: this refers to the global Steam service/community - Valve still offers Steam China with a very limited/censored selection of mostly-Valve games, adhering to local child protection laws. Most Chinese Steam users have historically been using the global service instead, as this Chinese version of Steam has only been available since February 2021.

As an average Chinese citizen right now: - You cannot travel abroad (no passport issued for average citizens, except for those that study/work abroad) - You cannot go beyond China's intranet legally (VPN is technically illegal in China). VPN services keep getting slowed/banned. - You cannot transfer much money out of country legally (50k limit a year, but you end up going to bank 10+ times just to be able to transfer…

This is the second time I've seen you try to piggyback off of a top HN comment without saying anything relevant to it.

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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I am surprised at what you say regarding the hosting of foreigners. My girlfriend was there for a couple of months and she didn't notice any such thing, and she actually rented a place with a couple of friends, also foreigners. Is this what you describe because of racism or because of government?

Both. I have been refused access to a place because the landlord was openly racist and didn't want to rent to me after she found out I was a foreigner. There is pretty much no recourse for foreigners who are victims of racism in China, it's an extremely racist country. When you're a foreigner you just kinda have to accept that there are people who will cross the street or shield their kids when they see you, loudly c…

Yes, foreigners need to register their address. I did that in UK every time I move when I was under student visa. If you fail to register within 7 days or so, you will be hit with a fine and other consequences. I also need to fill in my address in US every time I visit US. I assume it is normal for people traveling to westerns, but not very normal for westerners themselves. Most tourism countries, hotels do registration for you, sometimes you fill an extra form when you check in.

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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> I have Canadian citizenship and lived in China when the two Michaels were locked up. Who were only locked up after Canada locked up a Chinese citizen at the request of the US. Weirdly enough, that is framed in a completely different context than China's response to it.

A very prominent businessperson being held for allowing her company to commit fraud and violate US sanctions in a country that has an extradition treaty with the US is not the same thing as a country "suddenly" detaining two expats, in an immediate and obvious response to the previous lawful detention. The two Michaels weren't even charged with anything after they had been detained, imprisoned and interrogated for 5+…

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Re: Steam has been banned in China

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How can you tell if a hotel registers you with the local government? I am not saying they are (never bothered to cross the Atlantic) but you have no way of knowing what they do. My assumption is they all do, directly or not. I mean, 2013 did happen. Guess not everyone was paying attention

remind me, what happened in 2013?

Check out this Snowden guy. He made some uncomfortable revelations

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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How can you tell if a hotel registers you with the local government? I am not saying they are (never bothered to cross the Atlantic) but you have no way of knowing what they do. My assumption is they all do, directly or not. I mean, 2013 did happen. Guess not everyone was paying attention

Spoken like someone who's never spent any time in or around the US service industry. People will gossip, and something like this would be known - hell, I'd likely know it, just on account of knowing some folks who would know and would want to talk about it. I don't live in a tech monoculture, either geographically or socially, and I'm friendly, personable, and good at explaining complex systems simply. Because of tha…

If you pay cash, you pretty much uniformly have to show ID, no? I don't think it is possible to book a room without identifying yourself.

This might not be reported to the state, but I feel like it definitely could be subpoenad by the state.

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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I really love how we all have an impression of China as a country without access to global internet, but then there are things like "Most Chinese Steam users have historically been using the global service instead". Really makes you want to visit and see how this actually works for yourself. The more I read about China, the more unbelievably contradictive it gets.

I'm personally opposed to the idea of visiting certain countries, such as China and North Korea, to 'see for yourself', especially when you don't know the language, when you're not willing to risk your life to understand and uncover the parts the government doesn't want you to see, like VICE did in Xinjiang: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYyUqrMuQ That being said, if you go then please try to walk into a random h…

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Re: Steam has been banned in China

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You call it jingoism. I call it rise against dictatorships destroying democracy's way of life.

Is that so? Have you noticed which country is the source of this war against evil communist dictatorship? The US. Now, let's take a step back and consider some facts 1. China has not attacked any country in a long time. 2. The champions of free speech and democracy have destroyed millions just this last 20 years. Seems to me the villains are the ones screaming the loudest against their economic rival. You really thin…

>China has not attacked any country in a long time.

What is a long time to you? A month?

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