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Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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I constantly run into this problem, I've used my google voice number for everything for years (yeah it's not a great move but very hard to migrate away from) and a frustrating number of services recently have been rejecting it for verification. I end up having to take the sim out of my laptop and put it in my PinePhone. It's such a hassle. This whole "you're not a human unless you have a phone number" thing sucks. Sa…

Meanwhile the community is having a big debate over the CoC, deciding what exact wording they should use to say "be nice and include everyone".

Why just communities be forced to accept everyone? Or even be nice? When in a group of friends we can often times not “be nice” however because we know each other, we understand it comes from a place of love. Perhaps it’s a military background thing, but exclusivity has its benefits.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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I think this is completely different than having a credit score. I’ve never ‘needed’ a credit score unless I was requesting a line of credit. I’m which case a credit score is better than the alternative where I need to personally know someone that the lender already trusts and trusts their ability to trust other people. You don’t ‘need’ a credit score but if you want a line of credit then it’s good to have. Otherwise…

A credit score is used as a trustworthiness analog in arenas other than lending. For example renting a house or car, and some phone companies won't give you access to a post-paid plan, all of which can have a stratifying effect. The idea that because I don't take on debt that I am not trustworthy is wrong. I can pay a larger security deposit to offset risk, but often times that's not an option. I've also heard tell o…

Post paid plans are credit. It’s allowing you to consume goods, then pay for them after the fact.

Sure, it’s short term credit (sub 30 days), but it’s still credit.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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I constantly run into this problem, I've used my google voice number for everything for years (yeah it's not a great move but very hard to migrate away from) and a frustrating number of services recently have been rejecting it for verification. I end up having to take the sim out of my laptop and put it in my PinePhone. It's such a hassle. This whole "you're not a human unless you have a phone number" thing sucks. Sa…

Just a couple of days ago, I signed in to a gmail account using the correct username and password. Gmail intercepted me and claimed to be worried that they couldn't recognize the device I was using. According to the flow, they wanted me to verify my identity in one of three ways: (1) I could verify the backup email address associated with the account; (2) if unable to do that, I could provide the 2FA code sent to tha…

Just had this happen to me with my Microsoft/Minecraft account. I had migrated my mojang account 2 days ago and today I was told that apparently they "detected some activity that violates our Microsoft Services Agreement" and locked my account. They did not explain what the violation was and apparently it would magically go away if I verified my phone number (which they did not have before).

Never doing any buissness with ms again.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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What to do when Goog closes your account and won't reinstate it?

never understand the purpose of that kind of question. What do you do when the forum owner closes your account? Complain or go somewhere else, as long as there's an account someone can close it by definition. Chance that your Google account outlives everything else is if anything, pretty high.

The difference is that if Google blocks your account you might lose access to a hundred sites where you were using it for login. If a forum owner blocks your account you only use that one account.

I've never used "sign in with Google" for anything.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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I think Discourse is the first real attempt to bring forums in-line with "modern" UI expectations, which is why it feels like it won. There's probably lots of room to grow here. There's forums out there that allow SMTP-only [1] or SMTP and NNTP reading/posting [2], there's forum skins atop mailing lists like [3], there's distributed forums like Aether or Lemmy like [4, 5]. Unfortunately these are all new/raw. [1]: ht…

I would argue that "modern UX expectations" is a large part of the problem with Discourse. Infinite scrolling is one prominent example. Wasteful whitespace is another.

Not everyone has the same UI tastes _shrug_. There's no need to turn this into a bikeshed on UI tastes.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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AFAIK cell modems generally have functionality to send/receive SMSs, and you should be able to do that with the right software. Completely agree about the walls of commercial surveillance closing in though.

Yeah, I'm sure it's possible to do so, but unfortunately my BIOS locks me into the OEM modem, there is no linux driver for it and the windows one is not documented so no luck for me in that regard. At some point I'll pour some more sweat into it and try to unlock the bios or something but sadly for now this functionality that my computer absolutely has is unavailable to me. Same with getting NMEA sentences off the GP…

It doesn't have some AT capable "serial" port avaiable? A bit surprising.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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I really miss NNTP. I appreciate that spam was a huge problem, but it was really nice being able to discover and subscribe to a large number of topics and navigate them all from the same tool. And there was innovation in the client space. Reddit is probably the closest alternative I know of today. But, several communities treat an associated sub-reddit as unofficial in favor of their Discourse instance. However, I si…

I pay for a Reddit subscription, but it’s honestly not a great place for communities. The communities on Reddit is in my experience always lower quality, more combative and less friendly than communities on discord, discourse and irc.

Reddit certainly has its flaws. I suppose I've been fortunate that most of the sub-reddits I'm interested in have pretty good members. There's invariably always a jerk or two. I've run into that on Discourse, too. I suppose it's just something ingrained to online communities. I don't love Reddit, but it is the closest thing I've found to a central hub for multiple communities.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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This is a little off-topic, but does anyone have a good way to manage different identities on Discord? For example I'm in one Discord with real-life friends, one for a game community, and one for programming. I'd like my account to have different names and profile pictures for each. So far that appears impossible but maybe there's a way I haven't found.
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