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One reason seems missing: chat is arguably easier to set up and maintain.
Synchronous communication also means that messages won’t pile up.
No past content means fewer places to keep up to date; plus there are always users who ask questions without reading existing topics.
I could give more examples; to me chat seems a more lean approach.
Oh please do. This seems like the perfect time to bring this up: I had a piece of software that used Discord for support. They required that users be verified, which requires you to give you phone number to Discord. I gave them my Google Voice number, which is the only number I have, and they rejected it because they don't support VOIP numbers. I asked them if there was any other way to verify my identity. They told…
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I don't want that either. Why should I tell google or github which sites I use... And tie also the accounts there to my google account.
This is what openid (the original) was designed to fix. You get to own your identity and delegate it if desired. But adoption didn't really happen. But I get it. Maybe a throwaway email address is the right way around it for you?
Stack Overflow got close to this, but is still quite a ways off. The chat element is present but very much cut off from the site, and it lost its way over time as its focus changed. It may be worthwhile trying to assemble recommendations for how to select your own tools that give you these benefits, and perhaps to ease migrations between them.
What if you don't need a community? Why does everything have to be a community now? To that point: slack/discord/irc/whatsapp/pub conversations are a great way to bootstrap a community before you invest in something longer term, if it's needed. Find your like-minded friends and then grow it out. In fact, I can use my own experience in the mid-2000s as an example: we used existing forums like Gamesradar and rllmuk and…
It always did. The key is searchability - you can find discussions through Google and they will have an answerr to your question
I basically refuse to create accounts on random forums anymore. They've been the source of the vast majority of breached PIID for me over the course of my internet life because: - The software is usually poorly written - even the big guns. I helped maintain a vbulletin forum for years and oh my god is that codebase a disaster. It also for the longest time, if not still, stored passwords in plaintext in the database.…
It’s not extremely hard to set up SSO with the big (tech) providers like GitHub and Google. Would you be cool with “log in with google”?
Self-hosting will not make a comeback until hosting software can be installed and maintained as easily as, say, mobile apps. Install a forum on your server, set an upgrade policy, and mostly forget about it.
So much developer work goes into overwrought boil the ocean attempts at decentralization when solving this boring-but-hard problem well could lead to a renaissance in the simplest and yet most robust and most accessible form of decentralization: people hosting shit themselves. Docker could have done this but really didn't. RedHat or Ubuntu could do it, but they're not. Nobody is really doing this, or if they are they are doing it in an overly complicated way.
This recurring discussion is very "This is the year for Linux on the desktop" Nobody wants to register on some random weird site, and figure that sites navigation, let alone their privacy/data policies. Discord/Reddit/Slack/etc... are easy to use. People are comfortable using them. They provide a more uniform experience across different servers/subreddits/etc...
No one wants to register for slack or hand over government id for discord or use the reddit app.
As discussed in a recent comment I made [0], I think the problem is that a good modern forum software simply does not exist yet. imo discourse doesn't cut it, feels almost as ephemeral as in slack/discord. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29016033