> Inflow makes accessing many of the benefits of in-person ADHD therapy significantly more accessible and affordable.
What evidence is there are your product is actually comparable to therapy? Or that it even works?
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#312"We'll refund you if you forget to cancel"...
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#313Almost everyone rightfully dug into the payment model, which is definitely super shady, but I'll be the outlier and argue that the premise—as detailed in this summary—sounds awful. Seeing someone for CBT is a real thing that I can put on my calendar and be completely engaged in. This is just one more bullshit thing I'm supposed to check on my black mirror every day and engage in some community with? Fuck. That.
I quit Reddit and Twitter for that reason (among others) and have zero other stupid detractors except HN. It's a good place.
If anyone is looking for a fairly sparse but totally free app with some minor tips and tricks, check out My ADHD for Android.
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#314No I will not pay you. Subscription models suck.
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#315I just perused through the website (as someone who is diagnosed with Asperger's, now part of the ASD, and may also be underdiagnosed and need to deal with the reality of having ADHD as well), I find it highly suspect that YC would fund this company. None of what this website claims their website does aligns with any description of CBT for ADHD I've ever seen (either from practitioners, or from good friends of mine wh…
Not affiliated with YCombinator in any way but their website does list them as part of YCS21.
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#317Many of the reviews of the Android app are quite critical of the trial and payment model, for example: > CAUTION: After the free trial period (7 days), they will charge for an annual subscription ($102.95 US). This is OPT OUT, not opt in. In other reviews they say they will offer a refund (I will update when/if I get one) but for an app for people with executive function issues, an opt out format seems shady. Either…
Thanks for highlighting this - we're trying to figure out what the best model is for our community. A lot of other apps follow a similar model, we allow people to cancel anytime and have refunded everyone that has forgotten to cancel. Some people also like having the subscription because it is a pay per use model rather than putting everyone under the same one-off bundle. We're working on extending the free trial / m…
Please do not confuse people liking subscription and people that forget about the day when the trial ends and get charged (a non-trivial sum of over $100) against their wishes. People that like subscription certainly can use subscription, and giving them such an option is a smart move. A sneaky and underhanded move is to charge those that did not explicitly express the desire to have the subscription, but just forgot to cancel in time. Refunding after people vocally complain is fixing half of the problem. Not doing opt-out charging would be the other half.
I know many providers do not dare to give up on opt-out trials, since it brings them money. It is scary to trust your future clients - maybe they won't buy after all? But if you don't trust them, why would they trust you?
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Thanks for the follow-up questions. We're actually working on several different sign-ups flows at the moment including opt-in post free trial, longer free trial, web sign-up and one-off purchase vs subscription. It is not our intention to push annual significantly over monthly - we wanted to give a significant discount to yearly subscribers but perhaps the difference between the two is too large. The previously menti…
Thanks, it's good to know that you're considering alternatives. As you have a number of people with ADHD working on your app, I would be curious to know if any of them raised concerns about these specifics of your subscription model, during planning and development of the app?
I do not have ADHD diagnosis but I forget such things all the time. This is why I have reminders set up for all trials I ever start the minute I start the trial. This way I'd be reminded to cancel it (or not, in case I like it - but it'd be my decision then). I never complain about it because what's the point? That doesn't mean I like the practice - in fact, I hate it, but too many providers do it anyway.
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I strongly suggest that you engage with some professionals for this issue, not an app targeted at a single diagnosis. Issues like you describe are difficult to self-diagnose and impossible for others to diagnose over the internet. You could have an ADHD-like etiology, maladaptive daydreaming, or you could have a seizure disorder. Undiagnosed seizure disorders can be particularly draining but are often easily treated.…
Ahh...it's all water under the bridge, for me. I've accepted my own proclivities, and learned to make them strengths. I have no interest in the app, but I agree that folks who believe they may have any type of issues like this, should start by seeking professional help. One of the things about HFA and ADHD, is that they can go undiagnosed for a lifetime; which is not always a bad thing. We can often be extremely prod…
> A lot of times, the behaviors and habits we develop, as mitigations of the symptoms, can cause more problems that the issue, itself.
Too true. If you can learn to leverage the mental differences it can become very valuable. Unfortunately behaviors/emotions/habits to counter symptoms that in the larger picture often aren't that significant can make life much more difficult than it needs to be.
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Most people seem to think that medication for ADHD is great, but for my son, the side effects were unacceptable: nausea, vomiting, extreme irritability. If therapy is even an option, none of the medical professionals we’ve spoken to has offered it. Maybe it’s because he’s on the young side (7). Anyway, it’s frustrating that everyone sees medication as the answer when the side effects are so awful—but maybe our experi…
That sounds somewhat unusual, but side effects are a very individual thing. It might be you can't get a low enougb dose for your child. I'm a full, rather large adult, and I only need abouy 5-10mg of ritalin, and going above that is unpleasant. I'm sure I'd have been quite sick if I was taking that dose (5mg seems to be close to the minimum they'll do) at 7. A lot of doctors start patients at crazy high doses (over 1…
Side effects also vary with the active substance used, release mode, and other factors. Like with depression, ADHD treatment also starts with a process of matching the right meds to the person. So if the first prescription has bad side effects, tell your doctor and get them to prescribe an alternative. There's easily a dozen options to go through before giving up on meds entirely.