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Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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I still remember when you could rate videos on a scale of 1-5 (or was it 0-5?), and it showed the average rating from everyone who did. Then they made it a binary like/dislike, and now the trend continues to making it unary...

IMHO the "like/dislike" mentality is partly responsible for the divisive hostility of culture today. You either like something or not, you're with us or against us, there's no middle ground.

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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This seems rather user-hostile. The downvote count is useful for identifying videos that aren't what they claim to be. And how about DIY videos that give terrible advice? A big downvote ratio will get most people's attention in a way that critical comments may not.

I always assumed I was training it to show me things that I do like.

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Users should just comment "dislike" (or some form of it) from here on out. Or maybe people can rate videos on a 3rd party service.

Do people actually venture into the youtube comment section for useful comments?

On occasion if the video is small enough of niche enough the comment section will have some useful content, but the vast majority of comments under any video seem to be just weird vitriol that is only ever tangentially related to the video.

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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I could not repair half the things I have learned to repair without Youtube. 100% worth having to look out for manipulative antifeatures, in my book.

I dont think thats true. If people stopped using youtube people would upload to other sites. Google hasnt taught you how to repair anything.

I don't know why you're being downvoted, because you are obviously right — just like the audience will go where the content is, the content creators will go where they can get an audience.

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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You are not paying, right? So you are the product. You are targeted with ads tailored to your viewing pattern; your data is what creates value.

I am actually paying to get rid of advertisements, not to get rid of useful features. This will just get me to stick with my channel subscriptions, as the recommendations are already often better and better scams.

Unfortunately even then Google doesn't view you as the customer in any substantial way. Advertisers have been, and continue to be, who they want to keep happy. The reality is that, in aggregate, most users are willing to take a fair amount of abuse as long as it's free.

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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post #294
post #9

This seems rather user-hostile. The downvote count is useful for identifying videos that aren't what they claim to be. And how about DIY videos that give terrible advice? A big downvote ratio will get most people's attention in a way that critical comments may not.

"A big downvote ratio will get most people's attention in a way that critical comments may not." I'm sorry but this is one of those things which absolutely needs citation. I can't remember the last time I looked at likes/dislikes to decide whether to watch a video. The thumbnails on the watch/rec page are what draw me in to watch a video, I don't bother looking at the number of likes/dislikes (or comments) until mayb…

It's often an issue with how to and DIY videos. A big offender is Howcast. They have good search results because of their early presence on the platform but a lot of their videos are low quality by modern standards and not worth watching. Lots of high quality channels now producing dedicated content for whatever you were looking for but can be several videos down in lists.

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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I find dislikes a hostile form of conversation. If you want to discern if a DIY video gives legit advice, look at comment section. A good video will have something like “this totally works, thanks” with many likes.

If a video is misleading or fake, I think it should be reported and removed or marked as misleading and fake.

I see that my view is not popular, I’m open for debate.

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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How else is the mainstream supposed to spin reality? Entertainment giants used to more easily create the illusion of consensus, but web platforms like YouTube completely mess with their power by showing downvotes.

Smells political alright. The Biden admin disabled comments on all official The White House channel videos pretty quickly into their administration. Most videos have a tremendously high dislike to like ratio, the most recent is 3.4K dislikes to 205 likes. I don't know who they expect to consume their Youtube content but it apparently isn't the establishment's voter base. This is another brick in the wall that is Yout…

>I don't know who they expect to consume their Youtube content but it apparently isn't the establishment's voter base.

Who, honestly, gets their news from YouTube? If there's someone pushing an agenda it's all the people on this thread who are extremely concerned with the (low) like counts on some videos, which most people don't know exist in the first place. 3.4k votes is nothing. I searched "Bach" and "This week" and this video from two days ago has 1.3k likes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_sPYQj7uTU

3.4k likes is low for a YouTube video. WH videos don't get many views, either; view counts are in the tens of thousands, with a few poking up to around 200k. There's nobody even looking at the page to whom you could push a narrative, in theory.

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