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I am very uncomfortable reading it. Can you provide me a euphemistic account of it?
Genocide.
Hundreds of camps have been spotted, plenty of interviews given by ex-detainees. No doubt Uighurs are being detained en masse but I wonder how many don't ever make it out.
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Pay your taxes so that your military can keep an eye on the assholes who do this, and so that UN may offer some form of asylum to their victims. Vote for politicians that oppose this shit publicly. Explain to your kids why this is wrong.
The UN is not unified on the uighur camps, so it would have to be individual countries at the national level. The UN has voted on several resolutions regarding Chinese policy in Xinjiang. Many countries abstain from voting and of those that vote, more vote in support than vote to denounce.
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Macron is trying to incorporate French Islam into French society. His tactics may be good or bad, I'm not qualified to say, but he certainly is not trying to eradicate a population or its culture, and he is not rounding up religious minorities into concentration camps. Whataboutism only works when the crimes are on vaguely the same scale; this is like comparing bank robbery to music piracy.
There is no such thing as "French Islam". It's either French culture or Islamic culture. Macron has said (I don't really believe him) French culture is the only option.
I find it quite hard to believe that there is not any degree of distinct Islamic culture that has developed in France (both in the sense of present France and the broader sense of historical French territory) under the influence on broader French culture.
And by “hard to believe”, I mean entirely implausible.
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Pay your taxes so that your military can keep an eye on the assholes who do this, and so that UN may offer some form of asylum to their victims. Vote for politicians that oppose this shit publicly. Explain to your kids why this is wrong.
Wow, this is a really poor proposal. Intervening in another's country internal affairs leads to a war. UN is a nice idea, though it doesn't work in reality. To apply for an asylum, you need to leave the country. Low likelyhood of happening. I explain why its wrong to my kids. What then? As sad as it is, we can't do much if anything.
Not necessarily. Anti apartheid campaigns for South Africa kinda worked for example.
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I guess you feel the same about what Macron is doing?
I am not well-versed in the details of Macron is doing regards Islam in France, but I am certain that he is not committing genocide, which is what the CCP is doing, and what the OP is defending. Like arguing that the Nazis were doing the jews a favour with the holocaust. Beyond, beyond, beyond ludicrous. I don't even know where to begin with the idea that the victims of genocide benefit in any way from said genocide.
Where in this article do you read anything that points to a genocide?
Not the first and won't be the last time this has happened. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony
While I think it's a gross over-reaction from the Chinese government, I think I understand the fears which fuel such behavior. CPC has learned a lot from the fall of the Soviet Union and they will do anything in their power to prevent a similar outcome for China. One of the lessons was that cultural differences between citizens can be a very effective tool to destabilize a country. So instead of promoting cultural au…
Has this ever been done successfully? It seems like the racial caste system they continue to build will blow back eventually.
I'm in complete and utter disbelief reading this. How can stuff like this be happening in 2020? I mean this seriously but as a lowly computer programmer is there any way we can help these poor people other than offer our sympathy?
Pay your taxes so that your military can keep an eye on the assholes who do this, and so that UN may offer some form of asylum to their victims. Vote for politicians that oppose this shit publicly. Explain to your kids why this is wrong.
My taxes have frequently paid for US Gov led torture. If we ever hold China accountable in a meaningful way, it won't be due to authentic moral outrage.
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> I'm curious why this man was denied a US visa in 2018 despite an invitation from Congress to speak about his experience. [1] After assuming goodwill, and a genuine screwup on the part of US "visa lottery," the most simple, and making sense reason is the communist infiltration of US government.
good one, haha.