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India builds detention camps for up to 1.9M people not on citizens register

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Re: India builds detention camps for up to 1.9M people not on citizens register

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Post by dang »

goombastic wrote: post #305
cmonnow wrote: post #296

There are few misconceptions about the recently enacted CAA, that need to be clarified. Citizenship Amendment Act is a law to fast-track citizenship of 'persecuted religious minorities' in 3 neighboring countries Afghanistan/Pakistan/Bangladesh. It is a case of positive discrimination (affirmative action for the Americans) towards Hindu/Christian/Sikh/Buddhist/Parsi refugees. Here is the reddit thread explaining the…

Again, the above view is the government line and is meant to misguide and create ambiguity. Read the CAA in combination with the NRC to understand how it is similar to the Nuremberg laws. This thread has a lot of government propaganda shills.

Please don't break the HN guidelines by insinuating that commenters you disagree with are shills or astroturfing. After many years investigating this kind of thing on HN I can tell you that it is basically always an imaginary perception, and it degrades discussion badly, so it's not allowed here. Lots more explanation: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...

Also, using multiple accounts this way will get your accounts banned on HN, so please don't do that.

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Re: India builds detention camps for up to 1.9M people not on citizens register

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Post by dang »

dessant wrote: post #184

It's rare to see such rabid government propaganda on HN, like some of the posts in this thread. The activity in this thread is comparable to pro-government posts seen on threads about Chinese internment camps and the Social Credit System. There are plenty of disgusting comments to peruse here, though I'd like to highlight this one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21823490 > I don't really understand where the ge…

Pleae don't "highlight" flamewar comments that obviously break the site guidelines. That feeds them and encourages more like them. Flag them instead, as the site guidelines ask.

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Re: India builds detention camps for up to 1.9M people not on citizens register

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Post by dang »

dessant wrote: post #184

It's rare to see such rabid government propaganda on HN, like some of the posts in this thread. The activity in this thread is comparable to pro-government posts seen on threads about Chinese internment camps and the Social Credit System. There are plenty of disgusting comments to peruse here, though I'd like to highlight this one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21823490 > I don't really understand where the ge…

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21822364 and marked it off-topic.

Re: India builds detention camps for up to 1.9M people not on citizens register

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Post by cscurmudgeon »

askertask wrote: post #306
cmonnow wrote: post #296

There are few misconceptions about the recently enacted CAA, that need to be clarified. Citizenship Amendment Act is a law to fast-track citizenship of 'persecuted religious minorities' in 3 neighboring countries Afghanistan/Pakistan/Bangladesh. It is a case of positive discrimination (affirmative action for the Americans) towards Hindu/Christian/Sikh/Buddhist/Parsi refugees. Here is the reddit thread explaining the…

This is flat out wrong.

Why not say why they are wrong?

Re: India builds detention camps for up to 1.9M people not on citizens register

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Post by dang »

tasogare wrote: post #149

> why base it on religion? Because religion matters. In this case, islam has a millenarian, worldwide record of massacring non-muslims so it doesn’t seem far fetched to impose boundaries based on this criterion. Also the Pakistan+Bangladesh/India partition was made on this religious clivage, so muslims have two others countries to choose from. As someone who almost lost a friend in a jihadist terror attack, I’m reall…

Religious flamewar will get you banned here. Please don't post like this to HN again.

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Post by goombastic »

dang wrote: post #311
goombastic wrote: post #305

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again, the above view is the government line and is meant to misguide and create ambiguity. Read the CAA in combination with the NRC to understand how it is similar to the Nuremberg laws. This thread has a lot of government propaganda shills.

Please don't break the HN guidelines by insinuating that commenters you disagree with are shills or astroturfing. After many years investigating this kind of thing on HN I can tell you that it is basically always an imaginary perception, and it degrades discussion badly, so it's not allowed here. Lots more explanation: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... Also, using multiple accounts this…

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Post by fellellor »

silentguy wrote: post #285

Sequence of events: * Indigenous people of Assam complain about illegal immigrants from Bangladesh. * BJP (party in power) promises to deport illegal immigrants * NRC (National Registry of Citizenship) law is brought to identify and deport illegal immigrants, most of them believed to be Muslims. NRC is applied in Assam for the cost of 16 Billion INR. 1.9 million illegal immigrants are identified. * It is found that 1…

This entire sequence is incorrect. The sequence dates back to the Assam Accord of 1985 when the current BJP was nowhere close to power. Then there was the Supreme Court mandated NRC process which was decided in 2013. Without mention of these, your so called sequence of events is nothing but a bunch of lies.

Re: India builds detention camps for up to 1.9M people not on citizens register

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Post by fellellor »

vijaybritto wrote: post #201
sbmthakur wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is CAA monstrous when it actually expedites the process of gaining citizenship for refugees?

Monstrous cause its about disenfranchising Muslims.

BS. It is targeted at illegal Bangladeshi migrants and doesn’t touch anyone else.

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Post by kamaal »

cmonnow wrote: post #299
denzil_correa wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Pakistan, Non-Muslim population fell from 23% to 3%. This is a straight up propaganda and an outright lie [0]. The population of non-Muslims in Pakistan has always hovered around 3.5%. Census 1951 - 3.4% non-Muslims (oldest) Census 1998 - 3.7% non-Muslims (newest) [0] https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/pakistan-bangladesh-no...

Pakistan includes both West Pakistan (currently Pakistan) and East Pakistan (currently Bangladesh)- based on 1947 partiton, until 1971 when India helped Bangladesh gain independence from Pakistan. Both 'Pakistans' had a responsibility to protect minorities as per Nehru - Liaqat pact, and they both failed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_discrimination_in_Pa... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion…

The fact like people like you exist, suggests India has failed as well.

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Post by kamaal »

vinni2 wrote: post #99
dragonsh wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It will be shameful to be an Indian and not to oppose it, this is completely against the idea of India and the foundations of India. Today Gandhi and all the martyrs of Indian freedom struggle must be crying in their graves. India turned into a religious dictatorship with a handful of politicians using divide and rule and slowly peeling the democracy one layer at a time (by draconian laws, infringing human rights, in…

You would be surprised how many highly educated Indians even those who live in the west support Modi and all this. I remember in the Bay Area some Indians were campaigning and raising funds for Modi. I was shocked.

This is one of the most hypocritical things of being an NRI. You watch people who want a good life in secular, liberal western democracies that makes immigration easy for them. The same people want the very opposite conditions in India.

Because: Hate.

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