iOS 12 released

Post by headsoup » Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 2:02 AM UTC

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In terms of a business sense, Apple's move to make privacy a core feature is almost the last differentiator they can make between themselves and other mobile device operators. Android has "won" the mobile phone war in the sense of device count (it wasn't always the case, remember). The premiere Android devices, e.g., Pixel, Galaxy, and some others all tack on hardware features generally superior to Apple's – maybe no…

Android phone CPUs are so far behind Apple's A12 it's not even worth debating.

Post by headsoup » Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 2:07 AM UTC

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It is a really interesting marketing move (and don't delude yourself, this is a marketing move). To market a feature that Google can't possibly compete with.

While their statement is a marketing position, Apple's fundamental focus has always been user = customer not user=product

Post by rhexs » Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 2:09 AM UTC

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My guess is that Apple is positioning themselves for an inevitable future where privacy is taken a bit more seriously or at least legislated against. While this seems far fetched right now in the United States with the Google ad monopoly, I think it will eventually come after some form of catastrophic leak (from some user data harvesting conglomerate) involving politicians or other powerful figures. Build the trust n…

"I think it will eventually come after some form of catastrophic leak" ... you mean like a credit reporting agency leaking out ssn and other very important data information of millions. To be fair, as a dedicated apple hater, all these events, plus google's more recent lack of morality decision making, has made me rethink which computer, phone, maps, and search engine I will be using moving forward.

Post by developer2 » Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 2:22 AM UTC

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Provided this position is 100% genuine (and by all accounts, there is no clear indication that it isn't), that it comes from Apple gives the pro-privacy stance a hell of a lot of clout. If a company like Apple is investing in privacy then the consumer must assume that privacy has a lot more value than the government insists, no? For those who are security conscious it's a great reason to get an iPhone over an Android…

No one is mentioning that Apple is a hardware company first. They're not an ad company that makes hardware. Completely different approach and their stance for privacy makes sense.

Post by mcphage » Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 2:29 AM UTC

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I've asked this before on here and didn't get much of a response. If Apple truly believes in privacy, does this mean that they have a strict policy against using the data provided by companies that have a lower ethical stance on data collection? Is it more ethical to pay and benefit from the data for targeted advertising than it is to collect the data yourself? Edit: On re-read I thought it might be unclear what I'm…

Yet Apple makes money from apps that collect data, made by developers.