Microsoft Employees Protest Work with ICE

Post by ThbTs4wbXC9Qjv » Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 2:58 AM UTC

dang wrote: post #172

ThbTs4wbXC9Qjv wrote: post #104

Fire every single one of those Microsoft employees. People in ICE protect me, mine, and our way of life with their lives every day of the week. I'm not going to flippantly say fuck those people because the politics of the day are making a mockery of a law that was duly imposed and enforced by both parties spanning multiple administrations because it's the fashionable political protest fad of the day. Protest the lead…

Rants like this will get you banned on HN regardless of what you're ranting about. Please follow the rules, of which you broke a whole bunch here. They are at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html .

Post by undersuit » Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 6:15 PM UTC

jcims wrote: post #299

undersuit wrote: post #295

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The reason stolen identities are used is because our current processes to allow immigrants to work are purposely limited. Allow any immigrant to declare themselves. Give them an immigrant specific id so that they can go to an employer and work legally while paying local, state, and federal taxes. Keeping the system closed is what allows exploitation. Stolen identities are needed to work in the closed system else the…

No argument from me, but we're switching topics from holding employers accountable for the identity of the people they hire.

Post by dang » Fri, Jun 22, 2018, 5:40 AM UTC

PrimHelios wrote: post #310

downandout wrote: post #308

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It doesn't count when people say we should just open up the borders to anyone that claims that their country is poor or that life in Mexico kind of sucks. I feel bad for them, but that doesn't mean we can take care of them over here. So the "let's let all of Mexico in and we can hold hands and sing kum ba yah" position is not defensible. Also, why the quotes around "illegal"? When you enter a country illegally, you a…

>It doesn't count when So yeah, everything you disagree with doesn't count. Thanks for wasting my time.

Post by TimTheTinker » Sat, Jun 23, 2018, 6:14 AM UTC

eeeuo wrote: post #297

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I responded to that comment up above. I focused on Mexico because that is by far the largest source of illegal immigrants to the US. Not a single reply has answered my question as to why anyone would endorse illegal immigration. Many countries have many problems, we cannot just take in all of their residents. I think it’s terrible that families are being separated. But I don’t know of another solution when their pare…

The solution is to not separate them. You're not arguing in good faith when you suggest that the two possible binary outcomes are (a) unrestricted immigration or (b) separating kids from their parents. Many of the illegal immigrants come to the border to flee violence or crippling poverty. They have to bring their kids. If they had the time or the income or the support system to migrate legally, they would. With rega…

Post by PrimHelios » Sat, Jun 23, 2018, 4:24 PM UTC

downandout wrote: post #317

dang wrote: post #315

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Please stop using HN for political flamewar.

I’m not sure how I’ve done that. I was asking a question; I’m trying to understand a position that many seem to have (being in favor of illegal immigration) that seems unfathomable to me.