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Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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Please weigh your own personal hobby against our society's clear dysfunction when it comes to gun violence. Does the pleasure you get from learning about "reloading ammo for 100+ year old rifles" does not outweigh my desire for my son to not be shot at school? There are more important things than the issues you cite. If losing historical content and "niche communities" having to go find new hobbies means just a coupl…

> Please weigh your own personal hobby against our society's clear dysfunction when it comes to gun violence. Does the pleasure you get from learning about "reloading ammo for 100+ year old rifles" does not outweigh my desire for my son to not be shot at school? You're presenting a false dichotomy. I have seen no proven link between YouTube videos showing proper gun handling and gun violence. I say this as someone wh…

I have a very strong suspicion that the videos which lead to violence don't have to show any guns; it's more the conspiracy-theory and highly polarising right-wing politics stuff that leads to school shootings.

The blog of the Austin bomber is a good example of all the "red flags".

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This is very dismaying to see I have used Youtube in the past for seeing how to install gun accessories, put guns together, how to fix malfunctions, etc. Watching those videos has made me a more knowledgeable, and hence more responsible gun owner. This is an especially large blow for people who are part of niche communities, like reloading ammo for 100+ year old rifles. A lot of historical content will be lost. The n…

What's more, /r/gundeals was literally just a link aggregation sub. Nobody sold anything there, I don't even think many links were posted by folks with an affiliation to the linked site.

So a link aggregation site (Reddit) bans a link aggregation forum (/r/gundeals) because it doesn't like the content of the links being aggregated.

Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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This is very dismaying to see I have used Youtube in the past for seeing how to install gun accessories, put guns together, how to fix malfunctions, etc. Watching those videos has made me a more knowledgeable, and hence more responsible gun owner. This is an especially large blow for people who are part of niche communities, like reloading ammo for 100+ year old rifles. A lot of historical content will be lost. The n…

> This is very dismaying to see This is the chilling effect from the attack on Section 230 safe harbor protection (an attack which was largely “justified” by conduct which was already found to be outside of the pre-existing safe harbor, and so which needed no modification to deal with.) Companies that are being responsible to their shareholders are going to change behavior to minimize exposure to content which is lik…

We're also seeing corporations removing discounts for NRA members. I don't see a link between that and legal fiduciary duty in those actions. They seem to be reactions to social pressure.

That's speaking as someone who would like to see clearer legal protections for content-neutral hosting platforms.

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I read the craft beer forums got hit hard, since they cant sell alcohol. Also cigars trading and buy clubs are now banned. The finally got all the dark net, and idtheft, shoplifting subs. Sexsells is still up, but thats a political discussion sub, not for advertising. I know my local WA_Gun sub is purging all its trade/sell posts, since they allowed it, since all transactions are done at a dealer under law here. Gun…

only /r/darknetmarkets seems banned /r/darknet is still there.

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He can only shoot one gun at once. It's (much) faster to change a mag than to switch guns. Think harder about why he may have had so many. Maybe look into his very unusual non-history and the people around him. If it's not obvious, officially what happened in Vegas is a coverup.

Do you frequent conspiracy forums, because thats where I've heard that? The most hilarious scenario is the suggestion that he was actually doing an arms deal with bad guys who were planning on assassinating some Saudi nearby. The arms deal went wrong so they murdered him and to cover that up they shot up a crowd. Which you know, makes more sense than walking away or buying your guns in the desert anywhere within 100…

ah, ya, "conspiracy forums" with a "crazy" tossed in. Welp, no point in discussing it then. Case closed. "Hilarious" even... Clearly he needed all those guns for...

"You can't keep up that rate of fire no matter how many mags you've got"

Citation needed. You could make shot timeline with the audio. It's 101 that changing mags is faster than switching guns. I have most if not all of the footage, there is nothing there that makes me suspect he needs more than one gun, I have extensive experience shooting similar weapons.

Did anything remotely interesting happen in SA soon after?

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In the same way other countries who've banned firearms have carried it out? It's not like there's no precedent for this if you look outside of America.

America isn't other countries. Guns are as ingrained in rural America's culture as lifted trucks and beer. There would literally be armed revolts if the government tried taking peoples' guns away en masse.

"Don't take guns away from people to protect the populace because if you try to do it nutters with guns will shoot people"?

That sounds like justification for taking people's guns from them.

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Because when we organize a society, we can specialize into roles like policing and become more effective at defense as a whole?

Police in United States do not have to protect you: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-pol... Average national response time is 10 minutes, even in cities the median is 5min, but can be as high as 30min for some remote areas. In certain situations there may be no police response at all, as was the case in 1992 Los Angeles riots or practically any major natural disaster. The ‘let the police do it…

> In certain situations there may be no police response at all...

This more or less describes the Parkland shooting.

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The "sensible gun regulation" isn't, that's the thing. Indeed, the people calling for it are so proud of being so ignorant about guns and gun laws that they often can't even accurately say what class of guns they want banned, they've coined a term - "gunsplaining" - to mock those who point out when they don't know what they're talking about. Features of the current US pro-gun-control movement include the notion that…

You're mocking the intelligence of gun control supporters and doubting their sincerity and credibility. As you seem to be knowledgeable about the subject, and seem to believe that only persons such as yourself are qualified to have an opinion on the matter, what would you consider to be actually sensible gun regulation?

Pointing out ignorance is not mocking intelligence.

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>> There are _so_ many ways to make a leathel weapon I can't begin... Yeah but guns are "cool" while ramming a car into a crowd it's not that cool. I believe people should be allowed to bear arms but that doesn't mean the guns should be sold and advertised as lollipops.

I think we should be given one in school, trained, and make it normal. The problem is you're right, they are being advertised. Although, what I will say is I don't know a single person who treats them as toys (I live in a pretty rural area, so pretty much everyone has one). Every gun is taken care of and very well managed. It always amazes me, because I'm one of the few people who refuse to have a gun in my house (mi…

How can you say guns are safe when so many get killed by them in the U.S.?

Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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This is very dismaying to see I have used Youtube in the past for seeing how to install gun accessories, put guns together, how to fix malfunctions, etc. Watching those videos has made me a more knowledgeable, and hence more responsible gun owner. This is an especially large blow for people who are part of niche communities, like reloading ammo for 100+ year old rifles. A lot of historical content will be lost. The n…

As long as actual hosts allow you to put your stuff online I see no harm.

The internet worked perfectly fine before YouTube and Reddit, it’ll work perfectly fine after.

I mean, I understand the problems this poses for people, but I just don’t see how taking ownership of your own platform is a bad thing, even if it is forced.

Nobody is stopping gun fans from building their own social network for guns after all.

If people did that, quality would probably even increase. I mean, just look at HM. Even if HN is another centralized social network it still managed to become much better than anything tech related on Reddit or YouTube.

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