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What is this colored fiber in my chicken?

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Re: What is this colored fiber in my chicken?

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Like "Chicken Little" from "The Space Merchants" (1952) by Frederik Pohl and C. M. Kornbluth [1]: He swung open her door. “This is her nest,” he said proudly. I looked and gulped. It was a great concrete dome, concrete-floored. Chicken Little filled most of it. She was a gray-brown, rubbery hemisphere some fifteen yards in diameter. Dozens of pipes ran into her pulsating flesh. You could see that she was alive. Herre…

The real, human equivalent is "HeLa", taken without her consent from Henrietta Lacks in the 50s and grown endlessly since then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeLa

It was not "taken without her consent". It was part of a biopsy. And while it was kept without her consent, almost nobody has consent over what happens to removed body chunks. They're simply taken away no matter what the wishes are.

Re: What is this colored fiber in my chicken?

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post #143

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Literally everything is a fucking carcinogen.

> Literally everything is a fucking carcinogen > > Red meat is not dangerous. Pick one.

Are you trying to imply you were using the meaningless definition of 'dangerous', and not the "notable risk" definition?

Because "might be a carcinogen along with basically every substance" only proves the former.

Re: What is this colored fiber in my chicken?

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From the guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Please don't bait other users by inviting them to downvote you or proclaim that you expect to get downvoted. (I also don't think your statement is particularly controversial.)

My bad, apparently they followed my advice anyways. Jokes aside, eat more veggies for your health, the health of those poor little things that are fed shit and antibiotics daily in very bad environements, and last but not least for the health of the earth.

Remind me what plants are fed, again?

Re: What is this colored fiber in my chicken?

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post #304

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I'm afraid you're mistaken. It's because Bush organized humanitarian help to post-USSR countries in tge early 90s, which risked hunger because of the awful economic conditions.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%BA%D0%B8... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_legs

Thanks for the prooflink.

Re: What is this colored fiber in my chicken?

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Still, we can do something about it right now. We may need meat, but we don't need meat in every meal; if we reduced the consumption of meat, we could conceivably switch to more expensive, less efficient, more humane ways to grow animals. If you can afford it, you can also only buy meat from non-intensive farming. Or stop eating meat all together. I just don't think it's morally right to wait for a solution that may…

"We may need meat, but we don't need meat in every meal" Is it still a common belief that we 'need meat'? I thought it was well established that humans in normal health do not _need_ meat to thrive - especially with our current technology and industry. We can easily meet all of our nutritional needs without any animal flesh.

I agree we don't need to eat meat, and I'm a vegetarian, but I'm around... 80% sure.

I'd rather use the less-strong statement I need to make a point. It is still a common belief that not eating meat is in some way less healthy, because plants have lower-quality proteins.

Re: What is this colored fiber in my chicken?

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Yes, I agree re animals vs plants and suffering. And yes, maybe oysters are closer to plants than cows, in that regard. But it's not just about suffering. It's about the morality of killing other lifeforms. Personally, I'm OK with it. I'll be eaten after I die. Indeed, I'm always under attack from bacteria, yeast, molds, etc. But I won't eat anything that I wouldn't kill myself.

> But I won't eat anything that I wouldn't kill myself. Have you actually, personally, killed a cow, chicken, or pig?

Chickens. Many chickens.

Re: What is this colored fiber in my chicken?

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if this disgusts you for moral/guilt reasons there is a good solution. Eat less meat! You don't have to go full vegan. I think people employ black and white thinking about this -- either I eat all meat or I become vegetarian/vegan and eat no meat. That's hard, and you're likely to fail (hard cutting to vegan would be quite difficult, regression rates after a few months are sky high). Instead, simply resolve to eat le…

If I wasn't vegetarian already, this probably would have done the trick!

Re: What is this colored fiber in my chicken?

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post #223

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That is just... sad. Don't know if she's American, but Americans have a HUGE problem with food. The US was never a country with any unified culinary history. The culinary traditions that came with immigrants and slaves largely stayed in those communities and didn't leech out into the culture at large in their original and tasty forms. We've ended up with a culture of bastardized and homogenized factory foods.

You can find good food in most medium-sized and larger cities but you have to seek it out. And the local treasure may surprise you. Food trucks have been great for finding tasty fare the last decade or so. That said, I do think there are two standout foods that are ubiquitous in America although they vary by region. 1) bbq; 2) the sandwich. Behold the great American sandwich in all its varied forms: https://www.nytim…

Ok, fair! Americans do truly excel at the sandwich and bbq. But speaking a little to my original point, bbq belongs more to the South than to any other parts of the US, though any American will recognize barbecue as something truly a part of their culture!

Re: What is this colored fiber in my chicken?

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if this disgusts you for moral/guilt reasons there is a good solution. Eat less meat! You don't have to go full vegan. I think people employ black and white thinking about this -- either I eat all meat or I become vegetarian/vegan and eat no meat. That's hard, and you're likely to fail (hard cutting to vegan would be quite difficult, regression rates after a few months are sky high). Instead, simply resolve to eat le…

I personally only eat meat of animals I have myself killed.

Re: What is this colored fiber in my chicken?

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post #301

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Much of it comes down to people's discomfort with meat. White meat is consistent, reliable, mild-flavored, and often is served such that it contains no clues that it came from a living animal. Those not comfortable with murdering for food shouldn't do so by proxy.

One of the things I'm grateful to my parents for is teaching me where meat comes from. I mean, I knew it was a dead animal, but to really know... We lived on a county island in our small city (now larger) in California; so we could have farm animals on our property. My parents raised ducks, chickens, rabbits, geese, pigs and one time a cow. We had "farm fresh" eggs every day; in fact, we had so many my mom would sell…

I have seen quite a few broken legs as well, and my mind goes to the same place as yours each time.

It must happen near processing time otherwise I suspect they would not be healthy enough for human consumption. There must be other ways to use the most damaged animals.

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