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Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by pekk »

scrrr wrote: post #274
stanleydrew wrote: post #213

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More snark. This isn't helpful. For those who want to believe it, I doubt there is any amount of information that could ever be released to convince them that the NSA isn't spying on people anymore.

But they are! And this is a very important issue to be dealt with. I'm very disappointed by all the companies and all governments involved, and I earn money writing iOS and cloud-applications. And I understand it's bad for business, but the issue is too important to be ignored. So yes, by all means, keep talking about it.

Do keep talking about it. In threads which actually have something to do with it. Not every single thread about anything.

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Post by melling »

cheald wrote: post #239
stanleydrew wrote: post #213

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More snark. This isn't helpful. For those who want to believe it, I doubt there is any amount of information that could ever be released to convince them that the NSA isn't spying on people anymore.

I'm not snarking at all. I'm observing that comments about the NSA are entirely apropos given the current climate we live in. Yes, you're right, at this point, it would take something extremely radical to convince us that the NSA isn't spying on us anymore. Therefore, we should expect comments about the NSA and spying to become a part of the common dialog regarding technology and personal information. Asking them to…

But you are accomplishing absolutely nothing here. Being annoying and ineffective doesn't help your cause. Do you know that Jesus loves you and he wants to save your soul?

You might as we'll be discussing religion or politics here. This is not the place. I heard your warning the first ten times.

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Post by mikeash »

demallien wrote: post #294
mcintyre1994 wrote: post #282

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I'll bite. Explaining to a "geek with low reading comprehension", what is the actual benefit to the iPhone being 64-bit?

Memory bus bandwidth - moving large chunks of data around just got twice as fast. That means loading textures for games, or hauling photos up from flash memory will be substantially faster now.

There's no mandatory relationship between word size and memory bus size. 128-bit memory busses were common well before 64-bit CPUs were.

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Post by res0nat0r »

TrevorJ wrote: post #263
res0nat0r wrote: post #197

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We take for gospel that the NSA is spying on everyone in the world via every hardware device that has been created in the USA because of a few powerpoint slides. Interesting.

This is a vast oversimplification of the facts.

So is the parent comment. A few PowerPoint slides doesn't warrant any ridiculous comments about the NSA backdooring your phone. It would be great if HN could stop with the NSA is everywhere-all-the-time-in-everything meme for a while, it would make reading the comments here much more relevant.

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Post by baddox »

res0nat0r wrote: post #197
cheald wrote: post #171

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Probably when the NSA stops illegally spying on the citizens it is supposed to serve.

We take for gospel that the NSA is spying on everyone in the world via every hardware device that has been created in the USA because of a few powerpoint slides. Interesting.

It might be slightly more comforting if anyone, including the NSA, was denying it.

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Post by lukeman »

pilif wrote: post #73

Now that we have to consider the iPhones to be backdoored by the NSA, I wonder whether I really want to give them my fingerprint together with the rest of my data. I'm also not so sure whether a fingerprint can't still be easily faked (like it was possible on that Mythbusters episode for example). Personally, I think I'd rather stay with my passcode. Did you btw know that you can turn off "simple passcode" and then u…

Going at your premise and skipping over the fingerprint conversation: we have no evidence that the iPhone is backdoored. The NSA documents referred to scripts that were used on compromised computers that the phones were synced to, which indicates to me that they target unencrypted backup files.

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Post by pavlov »

topbanana wrote: post #196
pavlov wrote: post #112

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The Lumia 1020 will be hard to beat for the title of "best mobile phone camera ever created".

Not that hard apparently. http://www.tbreak.ae/features/camera-comparison-nokia-lumia-...

Who are "tbreak.ae"? That's not a very insightful review.

Many better known sites like DPReview.com think that the Lumia 1020 has the best smartphone camera:

http://connect.dpreview.com/post/5234892048/nokia-lumia-1020...

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by stanleydrew »

cheald wrote: post #239
stanleydrew wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More snark. This isn't helpful. For those who want to believe it, I doubt there is any amount of information that could ever be released to convince them that the NSA isn't spying on people anymore.

I'm not snarking at all. I'm observing that comments about the NSA are entirely apropos given the current climate we live in. Yes, you're right, at this point, it would take something extremely radical to convince us that the NSA isn't spying on us anymore. Therefore, we should expect comments about the NSA and spying to become a part of the common dialog regarding technology and personal information. Asking them to…

Well now you are backtracking into a semi-legitimate interpretation of your comment as not snarky. If you didn't mean to snark you could have just originally said

"We should expect comments about the NSA and spying to become a part of the common dialog regarding technology and personal information. Asking them to go away is just asking people to stick their head in the sand and ignore it."

That is a useful comment that would further the discussion. So I will now respond to that, since I don't want to debate what snark means.

I don't mind useful or constructive comments about technology and the NSA, but most of the comments I see are very reactionary and misinformed and painfully naiive. They are similar to all the old comments on stories about Microsoft where people would say things like "Micro$oft is obviously evil" and such.

So if a comment is interesting and useful, and happens to be about the NSA, then great. I haven't seen many of those.

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Post by martijn_himself »

Pxtl wrote: post #83

I'm still weirded out by the idea that Apple has finally split the iPhone line into "premium" and "value" streams. It just seems so... un-Apple. The whole "last-year's-model" discount was a bit of a kludge, but still Apple stood out from the rest of the industry with such a simple product line - device, biannual release, size, that's it.

I have just had a look on the Apple UK store's website. The 5C starts at £469, the 5S at £549. I am not sure if there is any price differentiation going on?

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Post by pekk »

graeme wrote: post #228
dev_jim wrote: post #166

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Urgh. When do we get to the point where I can read HN without a snarky NSA comment being voted to the top?

What was snarky about it? I hadn't properly considered that my fingerprint would likely end up with spy agencies if I used the new fingerprint service.

But if Apple Computer, other countries and anyone who cracks a system containing the same data has your fingerprints - that's A-OK, obviously.
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