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Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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Re: Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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Unless you are involved with Apple, we really don't know what choices they had. By all accounts their contracts with Google were set to expire, and they were in negotiations to renew. If those talks broke down and they did not have legal access to use Google data any longer, their hands were kind of tied.

You don't need to be involved with Apple to know they had choices. They knowingly relied on Google, and instead of planning earlier, they waited until the last possible moment to start putting resources into their own version. They choose to rely on Google. They choose to enter those agreements. They choose to ignore maps for the first 5 years. They choose not to start planning to move away sooner. You act like they…

Apple has acquired several mapping companies since 2009, so we can reasonably believe that they've been working on Apple Maps at least that long, and probably much longer. Perhaps even before the original iPhone release, given what we do know about Apple release schedules (they are generally long and drawn-out for new builds).

Waiting to release the original iPhone until 2015 when Apple Maps was absolutely perfect would have been a choice, but not a reasonable one. Bootstrapping with Google's service was quite logical, and proved to be very successful.

And Apple Maps really isn't that bad. Perhaps not Google Maps good, but better than what the iPhone had prior. It is still a major upgrade for iOS users, even for all its faults.

Re: Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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Sort of off-topic and I've harped on this before, but when I search "google maps" in the app store, it's the fifth search result! As a developer in the App Store, I really hope they do something to fix the abysmal searches in it.

If only they partnered with a company that was really good at search and maps and could fill in the parts that Apple isn't good at ..

And Apple could monopolize the areas that company wasn't good at yet, like smartphone OSes!

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>Apple will NEVER reach the search domain expertise of Google, and Maps is too valuable to let turn into a complete debacle, as Apple has learned. How can you possibly say that? How was Android 1.0 compared to what it is today? Or Windows 1.0? In your view no one should start anything if they aren't immediately good at it. What should be questioned is Apple's dedication to Mpas. If they're not interested in creating…

The point is that you don't push an irrevocable update to a critical service, one of the few things that is somewhat likely involve real-life, actual physical safety, out to millions of millions of users. Yes, maybe when it was brand new, called "experimental", and people hadn't come to trust it, GPS/location stuff could be spotty, but the bar is raised now. While we can all respect that development takes iteration,…

This wasn't the issue I replied to otherwise I would agree with you.

Re: Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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I disagree, Google's long term play isn't to "own" a platform and have everyone live in it (a la apple/microsoft). Google is an internet company and it's overall strategy is to have everyone on the internet. Because if you are on the internet, chances are you will use a Google product (by choice). Google doesn't care about iphone vs android. Google only cares that you are using the internet. An iphone/ipad is an expe…

>Google only cares that you are using the internet. Google also cares about its earning reports and stock price. "Using the internet" doesn't pay the bills. Google is far from a charity. Its a multinational corporation beholden to its stock holders. Google made a strategic decision to piss on its mobile division to help its maps division. This may not have been the wisest move and considering how google stock prices…

>Its a multinational corporation beholden to its stock holders.

Larry, Sergei, and Eric own almost all Class B shares which have 10 votes each. They control about 65% of the voting shares. So really the rest of the stockholders are just along for the ride. Google is really in this for the long game.

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>Google only cares that you are using the internet. Google also cares about its earning reports and stock price. "Using the internet" doesn't pay the bills. Google is far from a charity. Its a multinational corporation beholden to its stock holders. Google made a strategic decision to piss on its mobile division to help its maps division. This may not have been the wisest move and considering how google stock prices…

>Its a multinational corporation beholden to its stock holders. Larry, Sergei, and Eric own almost all Class B shares which have 10 votes each. They control about 65% of the voting shares. So really the rest of the stockholders are just along for the ride. Google is really in this for the long game.

I'm assuming that maps ad/datamining revenue is going to be significant on iOS.

Re: Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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The pixellation here is your phone waiting to download the higher-res vector tile. While it waits for the higher-res tile it draws a bitmap representation of the lower-res tile "above" it.

Surely if it's vector done right they can draw the lower detail vector tile at the higher bitmap res?

No because the amount of detail will change at each zoom level. Smaller roads and a higher number of local details appear.

Re: Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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You don't need to be involved with Apple to know they had choices. They knowingly relied on Google, and instead of planning earlier, they waited until the last possible moment to start putting resources into their own version. They choose to rely on Google. They choose to enter those agreements. They choose to ignore maps for the first 5 years. They choose not to start planning to move away sooner. You act like they…

Apple has acquired several mapping companies since 2009, so we can reasonably believe that they've been working on Apple Maps at least that long, and probably much longer. Perhaps even before the original iPhone release, given what we do know about Apple release schedules (they are generally long and drawn-out for new builds). Waiting to release the original iPhone until 2015 when Apple Maps was absolutely perfect wo…

> so we can reasonably believe that they've been working on Apple Maps at least that long,

I can also reasonably believe that they weren't serious about investing effort into it.

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