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Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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Re: Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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Due to iOS Maps using vector tiles once it's been loaded you can switch it into offline mode and the tiles will persist.

so that would be a no then. you still need internet connection to download the initial data. nokia's app is fully offline

Fully offline? You can't "download maps locally to the phone" without an internet connection, you know.

And yes, I have a Nokia, the maps don't come pre-loaded.

Re: Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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I hope Google waits a few months and then rolls out a premium-purchase maps feature. Then, when Apple demands their 30% and Google refuses, Apple has to pull the app again and frustrate all their users again. Not saying that's what will happen, but I can dream.

Why would you want that?

Because I like a good game of hard-ball I guess :)

That, and Apple has always annoyed me since I can remember...so for me personally, it's just nice to see them lose.

Re: Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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The answer is clearly yes - this largely removes one reason why someone might prefer Android over iOS. Hard to say how big the effect is, though.

Especially since Apple are clearly working to improve their own maps. If/when they hit (or near) parity, they'll have the massive advantage of being bundled. At least before, they were maintaining a long term position as the major maps app. If they lose 90% of these users when in a year or two when Apple improve their maps, it would just have been a wasted opportunity to sell androids, especially the high end ones.

> Especially since Apple are clearly working to improve their own maps. If/when they hit (or near) parity ...

The thing is that Google is also working constantly to improve its maps, and has a far larger and more experienced team doing so than Apple.

[Besides the underlying infrastructure which forms the bulk the effort, now that Google has its own app, they have a very definite incentive to keep improving it (whereas in the case of the iOS5 maps app, there were artificial constraints preventing it from being kept up-to-date).]

There's no guarantee that Apple ever will hit parity; indeed, they may simply fall farther behind...

Re: Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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As many commenters have said, it wasn't necessarily Apple's choice to make the change, and they were bound to their own release schedule.

And as has been rehashed over and over, it was Apple's choice. They simply prioritized other things over Maps. Do not confuse not having a choice with choosing to wait until you were under constraints to make difficult choices.

Unless you are involved with Apple, we really don't know what choices they had. By all accounts their contracts with Google were set to expire, and they were in negotiations to renew. If those talks broke down and they did not have legal access to use Google data any longer, their hands were kind of tied.

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Sort of off-topic and I've harped on this before, but when I search "google maps" in the app store, it's the fifth search result! As a developer in the App Store, I really hope they do something to fix the abysmal searches in it.

I think this happens due to the way the App Store time-weights many metrics. expect it to be top tomorrow.

That makes sense, but it makes for pretty terrible UX for major app launches like this one.

Re: Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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Which means you must be using it in a browser, on a Java phone/blackberry, or in iOS 5. Try the new iOS app or an Android phone.

I'm using the maps app on and Android phone. When I zoom in, I see the pixelation before the new tileset loads. Here's a screenshot I took after I enabled airplane mode: http://i.imgur.com/wc5Ie.png

It's definitely vector-based. What you're seeing is that the vector tile gets rendered to a bitmap for display. If you zoom in quickly, rather than re-render the bitmap over and over, it just scales the pre-rendered bitmap. When the new zoomed-in tile loads, then it re-renders that tile.

Also, even though it's vector-based, there's still different tiles for different zoom levels. For example, with different levels of detail.

Re: Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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Actually I think Apple won here. Google was refusing to release a turn by turn direction update to their apps. By developing an Apple Map App with turn by turn, they kind of forced GooG to provide it on iOS platform. Also, it is very difficult for google to ignore ios users.

As I recall, the reason that Apple chose not to include turn by turn in the official maps app was because they early on had high-profile partnerships with GPS makers who had expensive apps on the app store.

Re: Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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No, I mean Apple won't get the many data faults I report, the missing POI reports or the incorrect POI reports. Apple has an entire globe to cover, it'll improve incrementally globally but improve locally for me if I'm reporting my concerns.

Are Apple doing anything with those bug reports, though? In my area, bugs reported 2.5 months ago still haven't been corrected. (If you are seeing improvements though, more power to you.)

Every report I've filed has ended up added within 2 weeks.

I'm guessing it varies by city/state/country, no idea how apple is actually vetting the reports but I've had no issues.

Re: Google Maps becomes the App Store’s most popular free app in 7 hours

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What do you mean "if I stop using it it won't get better"? Do you mean apple will stop supporting it? I'm having trouble seeing why you can't stop using it for a year until it gets better.

No, I mean Apple won't get the many data faults I report, the missing POI reports or the incorrect POI reports. Apple has an entire globe to cover, it'll improve incrementally globally but improve locally for me if I'm reporting my concerns.

Okay, so then you are probably under the misapprehension that this is the main driver for improvements.

For giggles, if only 10% of people with iphones report one error a week, calculate how many full time people it would require to process them.

In reality, their biggest problem is probably operator (IE people reading reports) time, not lack of error reports. I would take a massive data entry operation to handle them all.

If they are smart, they will have realized by now that relying on user reports to correct things is basically impossible, unless it's an automated system, which has it's own issues.

In short: If you think crowdsourcing is the way they will solve their data/data quality issues, you are probably wrong.

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