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Post by Swenrekcah »

lukan wrote: post #272
annzabelle wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article: > “Vulnerability-Trust exercise” From your parent comment: > the facilitator tried to get to the bottom of tensions between the CTO and head of sales I was referring specifically to these sorts of things. Retreat doesn't always include this, but sometimes it does, and when it does it's a stupid idea.

"Retreat doesn't always include this, but sometimes it does, and when it does it's a stupid idea." Unless maybe done by professionals? I never have been to one such retreat, but I know human conflicts and I know what difference it can make, if skilled people can mediate.

Such professional therapy should probably be administered privately and during the course of a regular workday.

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Post by rwmj »

gadders wrote: post #287
not-kinsale-joe wrote: post #279

Earlier quoted context omitted.

UK had the most unhinged work drinking culture I had ever seen.

It's dropped off now. It was better in the 90s.

It was pretty mad in the 90s, but I don't recall anyone ever being forced into it at companies I worked for. A company mandated "alcohol bus" sounds ridiculous then and now.

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Post by ncphillips »

pif wrote: post #276
Johnny555 wrote: post #57

Offsite retreats seem like a bad idea in general, I've never been to one where I felt the team or company worked together better afterwards, and I've seen some spectacularly bad results... like the time the facilitator tried to get to the bottom of tensions between the CTO and head of sales (the classic problem of "Engineering isn't shipping features fast enough" and "Sales is selling features before even consulting…

> classic problem of "Engineering isn't shipping features fast enough" and "Sales is selling features before even consulting with engineering" That's not a problem, in the sense that there was never any possible debate: if I make a promise on your behalf, I am a di*k.

It’s a mix. Partially a systems problem. We used to have that problem, then we changed the way work is selected. Sales is part of the process, so they’re forced to see all the things we could build and help decide which ones were saying no to. They still promise things occasionally but they hedge a lot more now. And our teams delivery rate has increased dramatically because we’re not getting yanked around all the time.

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Post by archibaldJ »

ionwake wrote: post #271

I know some of the younger folk may not realise reality is stranger than fiction, but I too have been on a "work mandated drink alchohol bus" where I remember even though I was young, I was terrified the whole time wondering why we were being forced to drink infront of C suite; forced on a hell ride through the black country ( Thats a region in England). One might think it was naive and odd for me as a young autistic…

put them into a Cartesian Closed Category and you an emulate the whole thing with LLMs.

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Post by cosmodisk »

ionwake wrote: post #271

I know some of the younger folk may not realise reality is stranger than fiction, but I too have been on a "work mandated drink alchohol bus" where I remember even though I was young, I was terrified the whole time wondering why we were being forced to drink infront of C suite; forced on a hell ride through the black country ( Thats a region in England). One might think it was naive and odd for me as a young autistic…

I had a few company events that could easily become the foundation for one of those films where the main characters wake up in the morning in some random Asian country. No matter how crazy people go in these parties, there's always someone watching it and taking mental notes. I stopped getting too drunk in these events since I got into more senior Nowadays my aim is usually to rescue my colleagues and get them home safely:)

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Post by chrisldgk »

ionwake wrote: post #271

I know some of the younger folk may not realise reality is stranger than fiction, but I too have been on a "work mandated drink alchohol bus" where I remember even though I was young, I was terrified the whole time wondering why we were being forced to drink infront of C suite; forced on a hell ride through the black country ( Thats a region in England). One might think it was naive and odd for me as a young autistic…

I remember at the ad agency I used to work at (somewhere around 2018) we used to have a happy hour every Friday where from 5pm onwards all drinks (including booze) in the cafeteria were free, which led to people of all departments including C-Suite to get together and drink. I remember it as a good time though, I don’t remember anything ever happening that led to people having repercussions for employees. Then again, this is German drinking culture and the stiffest drink you could have was wine, so people wouldn’t usually get wasted, just tipsy.

The Christmas parties were a different breed though. HR definitely had a lot of work to do after those.

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Post by archibaldJ »

What if he only took it before his career, or before joining Netflix? And is it because his role is not an engineer/designer/etc so the history of having taken medically prescribed ketamine could mean greater risk during the operations designated to him that are of business-type nature?

What if my engineers microdose on ketamine for productivity? And will the HR decides differently if it is lsd, dmt, etc? So because of Steve Jobs these naturally have better "branding" to them?

What if Kevin Baillie made a documentary film out of this and became "the Steve Jobs of ketamine"? Do things on this planet work this way?

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Post by kakacik »

xquce wrote: post #230
s1artibartfast wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Genuine question. Can you tell me why people love saying this so much?

Because HR lies and say the opposite in the majority of companies. "Come to us with any problems, it's safe and anonymous, we are here to help you". From personal experience I have reported gross treats by senior leadership to an HR rep who was shocked about hearing their HR employee evals being suppressed by only allowing score between 8-10 in a 1-10 score. The HR rep confirmed it personally that it was happening an…

This is corporate default. Don't stick your head too much, don't make too much noise, vent off someplace else ie via some cool sports. Doesn't matter how righteous, how correct and good for the company, it will very easily back fire you. Its kafquesque catch-22 all over the place, be a good boy and accept the paycheck with crap it comes along. Or move, but its not always greener on the next site.

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Post by wasmitnetzen »

reactordev wrote: post #288
aljgz wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a recipe for a sad life. It's avoiding friendship for the fear of betrayal. You get a lot of benefits by being good friends with colleagues. There are, however important things to be aware of: 1- "Though shall not" limit their social life to their colleagues (or any single group that can disappear with a divorce, change of jobs, or hobby, maybe because of an incident). 2- "Though shall not" blindly help peopl…

>”this is a recipe for a sad life” No, this is a recipe for surviving corporate America. You can have and make friends but be cautious of coworkers that you work directly with. I’ve made friends outside of work. I’ve made friends at work but I do not expect to be friends with everyone I work with.

>> a sad life

> corporate America

Sounds like you're saying the same thing.

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