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ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Good desktop apps in this category can manage agents across any number of remote SSH hosts.

But then I close my laptop and it’s not running on the headless host anymore right

Codex, Claude Code, ZAI — they continue work in headless mode, when you close your laptop, if you have connected to remote machine

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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I’ve never had a refusal coding, and in some areas (AI red teaming specifically) I’ve found it quite good at recognizing and discussing “white hat” stuff that in the past I think would have got refusals. But when there was the Hantavirus thing a while back, I asked it if there was a vaccine under development and got a refusal immediately. I’ve had a few like that. It seems they’ve implemented really poor guardrails o…

Yeah, I’ve had Opus (and Fable) perform full security audits on my codebases that would run for 30mins. That’s what I think would have tripped it but went just fine.

I had it debug why Firefox crashed on my prototype X11 server and got a refusal when it started digging into what exact payload triggered the crash.

But that's the only refusal I managed to get.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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I'm somewhat surprised that this is not open source (from what I can tell). Compare to Mimo Code https://github.com/XiaomiMiMo/MiMo-Code (which is a CLI, while this is a desktop app).

I don't even know what I would do with a desktop app. I'm running these things in headless VMs, so I can run them with `--dangerously-skip-permissions` or whatever. I don't trust them, even without that flag, on my desktop/laptop.

> I'm running these things in headless VMs

What's your setup like and what do you use it for?

I have a M2 Max MBP with plenty of ram and I use VSCode + Zoo Code plugin with Qwen3-Coder-Next-GGUF:UD-Q4_K_XL to run local agentic coding sessions, but I'm intrigued by being able to run headless as I could probably run multiple instances in parallel to do stuff?

Like are you using UTM with some pre-built VM and a local LLM?

Curious.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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For anyone who uses GPT-5.5/Codex as their daily driver, how does GLM-5.2/ZCode compare, esp in a codebase already set up for agentic coding?

GLM 5.2 is in an uncanny valley where it's too big to run at home, too expensive and slow in comparison to similarly capable model (a good chart here - https://deepswe.datacurve.ai/ ), and that's just comparing API prices. When looking at subscription offering by Anthropic and OpenAI, it's not even comparable, as a Codex $200 subscription can easily use a billion tokens per week on GPT 5.5 high/xhigh. It's an interes…

Thanks, that DeepSWE comparison is really useful. Yeah the Codex $100 plan with xHigh reasoning is very practical and cost efficient.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Does anyone use an agnostic TUI or harness for development tasks that can fairly seamlessly switch between providers? I'm wanting local context in the spirit of "here are 3 AI providers available, for coding tasks use this one... and for writing prose use this one... and for generating images use this one..." etc.

I use Kilo Code for that it's based in OpenCode and it's OpenSource.

I prefer having a GUI for diffs and session history,but if you prefer TUI you can just use OoenCode

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Do you not find a dedicated UNIX user to be sufficient for the sake of protecting personal files, SSH keys, etc?

Agent that can apt-get is more useful.

When I was in university in 2009, the student union I was in had set up their Linux computers with a small program that one of the members wrote, that had the suid bit set and would exec apt-get install passing the arguments along.

This way, all members of the student union were able to install any software they wanted to on the student union computers without having to give out blanket root access to the members. Only a select few members had full root access.

There’s other ways to achieve the same too.

And you can do this exact same sort of thing for the user that your agent runs as too, without having to give it access to do everything that root can.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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I could use them as a provider if they shown concrete price per token. Or concrete number of tokens in each plan. Now I don't know what I would rent from them. If I were to buy hell knows what, I would go to Anthropic.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Given that there's such severe concern being expressed by Anthropic about Claude being distilled, and the idea that the harness is part of the the moat, it doesn't seem super surprising that the other side of that would try to also make it harder for them to tell how well they're doing and what their approach is.

> and the idea that the harness is part of the the moat, That idea is wrong, though. These same people thinking harnesses are part of a moat are also boasting that s/ware is easily writable now. There's no secret sauce in a harness that you can't vibe-code into your own harness.

> vibe-code into your own

Except you'd need the knowledge of what to vibe-code, no?

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