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FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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Post by trumpdong »

mothballed wrote: post #29
dgellow wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean. It’s the same, you just have to show your passport and fill a form. It takes 1minute to get it done, you can do it on your way to the taxi if you want. Though e-sim are more practical now

I wonder what exactly are they hoping to achieve then? Anything that can be filled out in 1 minute in a taxi can be spoofed with an extra 30 seconds on the dark net buying dark IDs. So this does less than zero for crime, actually encourages more of it, while doing what exactly? It's madness.

Can you tell me more about how to order and receive a fake ID on the dark net in less than 30 seconds? It does sound rather implausible.

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Post by trumpdong »

iammrpayments wrote: post #40

Had to buy one of these SMS activation services from a guy in Nigeria using a memecoin because claude decided to ban my account because they didn’t like my credit card brand and Claude requires sms activation for new accounts. Guess these guys are going to make more money in the near future.

An SMS activation price is about $0.13 btw, there are several sites that do this commercially with hundreds of thousands of numbers. Not going to name any since that'd be advertising for them.

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Post by OsrsNeedsf2P »

iammrpayments wrote: post #40

Had to buy one of these SMS activation services from a guy in Nigeria using a memecoin because claude decided to ban my account because they didn’t like my credit card brand and Claude requires sms activation for new accounts. Guess these guys are going to make more money in the near future.

I thought I was the only one!

Not because Claude banned my account (but they did that too), but because OpenAI one day decided I needed a phone number to login, and then proceeded to reject my real one.

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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Post by trumpdong »

tonetegeatinst wrote: post #290

Pretty sure that this would just encourage privacy minded folks to find a loophole. Or if you get fed up enough you just start blasting FM transmissions without a license..... Keep the burst short enough while your mobile and don't make the transmitter obvious and you could probably get away with it for short SMS comms. Or just use something like lora or meshtastic/meshcore

The loophole is to use a homeless person's ID for $20.

Wait. In the US don't they not even have an ID standard? The homeless person probably doesn't have any valid ID and neither do members of several other disenfranchised groups, right? So now they're not allowed to have cellphone service?

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Post by trumpdong »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #171
tgrowazay wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This has absolutely nothing to do with burner phones That is not correct. There a phone farms operating purely on burner phones / disposable sims. Even for legit use cases, this path is often way easier/cheaper than go through official channels. Use cases range from carrier-NAT proxies at < $1 per GB to text message spam.

But... what does your comment have to do with burner phones? A burner phone is a phone number whose owner is not officially registered somewhere as the owner. A spoofed phone number is a false declaration that you're calling from number XXXXXXXXXX when in fact you're calling from YYYYYYYYYY. You might notice that there is absolutely no relationship between these two ideas. You can be registered and lie about your pho…

There are phone farms that exclusively use burner phones and do not need to spoof caller ID.

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Post by trumpdong »

brightball wrote: post #64
cwillu wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

American exceptionalism was always a lie; name an “un-American” practice, and I'll show you a piece of American foreign policy.

Violations of the US Bill of Rights. Yes they occur. Yes the US does it. Every violation of it should have lost in court already but courts have a way of interpreting things based on their beliefs rather than original intent.

It's hardly un-American if America does it the most, is it?

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Post by trumpdong »

kgwxd wrote: post #225
rirze wrote: post #76

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If a messaging app ever gets the attention of government regulators, it must succumb to this verification. I don't know any way to avoid this.

How would they enforce that on a decentralized communication platform?

Did you ever read about how the creator of Session was forced to flee Australia and move to Switzerland?

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Post by doubled112 »

autoexec wrote: post #220
Ritewut wrote: post #186

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This comment is so divorced from reality. It is very difficult to live life in the modern world without a phone unless you want to go Amish.

I'm not Amish, but if I walk into a restaurant where they won't show me a menu without scanning a QR code, I walk right out.

I’m with you there, I probably would too.

But when your child is late to school but they won’t allow you in until you scan the QR code and fill in a form? Do you stand and wait hoping to be noticed? Hoping to tailgate somebody with a phone? Just head home?

The school also sends general communications only by app.

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