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Post by foxglacier »

bigfatkitten wrote: post #286
foxglacier wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Preventing another country getting nuclear weapons is a very good thing. That's Trump's stated aim for this war. How can all these people replying not see the value in? Two weeks away could turn into "never" if he succeeds. I don't understand this belief that if we just leave the festering wound that is Iran's Islamic Republic alone, it'll never get any worse. Do you also think that global nuclear disarmament would b…

The Iran problem is one that the UK and US jointly created, and that there is no uncreating. The status quo was really the best possible outcome. I think world peace with everybody holding hands and dancing would be a good thing, but it’s about as likely to happen as global nuclear disarmament. Ukraine is an excellent contemporary case study of what happens to a nuclear-armed nation with dangerous neighbours that giv…

If the status quo really remains status, then sure, Iran wasn't really directly doing much harm to its neighbors. But the danger of status quo is that it would eventually make nuclear weapons. From your last sentence, it sounds like that's what you want. Is it?

Re: BYD is seeing a flood of new EV buyers

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Post by foxglacier »

plugger wrote: post #294
foxglacier wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Preventing another country getting nuclear weapons is a very good thing. That's Trump's stated aim for this war. How can all these people replying not see the value in? Two weeks away could turn into "never" if he succeeds. I don't understand this belief that if we just leave the festering wound that is Iran's Islamic Republic alone, it'll never get any worse. Do you also think that global nuclear disarmament would b…

We destroyed the nuclear capability of Iran last year during the 12 day war. Trump said so himself. Now we're engaged in a full regional conflict to destroy Iran's nuclear capability that was destroyed last year. The same capability the Iranians were willing to give up via negotiations that were ongoing when the US and Israel took out the country's leadership in a decapitation strike which began the war. Respectfully…

You want Iran to forever be a short step away from completing their project of making of nukes but never quite doing it because of its own internal decision and integrity at keeping its promises? No, that's naïve. They will obviously do it if they think they can get away with it. To be safe, they have to be physically prevented from doing it even if they want to.

Proof you're wrong is that they had a self-imposed 2000km limit on their missiles but when push came to shove, they changed their mind and shot one 4000km.

Re: BYD is seeing a flood of new EV buyers

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Post by plugger »

foxglacier wrote: post #302
plugger wrote: post #294

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We destroyed the nuclear capability of Iran last year during the 12 day war. Trump said so himself. Now we're engaged in a full regional conflict to destroy Iran's nuclear capability that was destroyed last year. The same capability the Iranians were willing to give up via negotiations that were ongoing when the US and Israel took out the country's leadership in a decapitation strike which began the war. Respectfully…

You want Iran to forever be a short step away from completing their project of making of nukes but never quite doing it because of its own internal decision and integrity at keeping its promises? No, that's naïve. They will obviously do it if they think they can get away with it. To be safe, they have to be physically prevented from doing it even if they want to. Proof you're wrong is that they had a self-imposed 200…

For the vast majority of entire life Iran has been weeks away from having a nuke. I'm nearly 50. And yet you believe that they're now "two weeks away" because that's what politicians told you. Who's being naive here? How old are you?

> Proof you're wrong is that they had a self-imposed 2000km limit on their missiles but when push came to shove, they changed their mind and shot one 4000km.

The details of this attack are murky, it might not have even occurred. And given the penchant for the Trump administration to lie about this conflict on a daily basis I don't believe it either. Show me some radar tracks, hell, ANY EVIDENCE and I might consider it. Otherwise I'll consider it propaganda.

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Post by plqbfbv »

plugger wrote: post #295
bmicraft wrote: post #222

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The main problem with PHEV is, that's it's comparably small battery will age very poorly because it will both: a) do more charge/discharge cycles per distance driven, and b) get charged and discharged closer to 0 & 100% making the battery age even faster.

I'm not sure where you're getting this idea from, but my PHEV (BYD Shark 6) doesn't drop below 22% battery as the engine is there to charge the battery, not propel the vehicle. I also believe that most pure BEV drivers would charge their cars daily to mitigate the risk of range anxiety.

> I'm not sure where you're getting this idea from, but my PHEV (BYD Shark 6) doesn't drop below 22% battery as the engine is there to charge the battery, not propel the vehicle.

> I also believe that most pure BEV drivers would charge their cars daily to mitigate the risk of range anxiety.

(not parent poster) I got the perspective from people that wanted to help other people, but stopped repairing PHEVs:

- https://evclinic.eu/2025/09/27/if-you-drive-a-hybrid-may-god...

- https://evclinic.eu/2025/01/19/ultimate-ev-ice-and-hybrid-co...

- https://evclinic.eu/2025/12/04/2021-phev-bmw-ibmucp-21f37e-p...

The difference with BEV charging is that the battery is much bigger and it's a core component (it's properly serviceable), so I can charge it at 60%, keep degradation at bare minimum, and still have 270km of range. With a PHEV you'll need to always charge it 100% to fully use that EV range, so the battery will degrade way faster due to way more cycling.

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Post by foxglacier »

plugger wrote: post #303
foxglacier wrote: post #302

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You want Iran to forever be a short step away from completing their project of making of nukes but never quite doing it because of its own internal decision and integrity at keeping its promises? No, that's naïve. They will obviously do it if they think they can get away with it. To be safe, they have to be physically prevented from doing it even if they want to. Proof you're wrong is that they had a self-imposed 200…

For the vast majority of entire life Iran has been weeks away from having a nuke. I'm nearly 50. And yet you believe that they're now "two weeks away" because that's what politicians told you. Who's being naive here? How old are you? > Proof you're wrong is that they had a self-imposed 2000km limit on their missiles but when push came to shove, they changed their mind and shot one 4000km. The details of this attack a…

"2 weeks away" means they have the technical capability do it soon if they decide to and can get away with it without their equipment being bombed. It obviously doesn't mean they will do it soon and it isn't literally 2 weeks. They can be delayed by international pressure or internal decisions, or whatever. So yeah, I do believe that, interpreted correctly instead of maliciously literally.

Same as the doomsday clock doesn't mean we'll have a nuclear war 2 minutes from now.

In my city, we've been "overdue for the big one" (earthquake) for my entire life. In never came but that doesn't mean it won't come in the near future so we still prepare for it.

OK, I have no evidence for those missiles. It doesn't really change things though. Iran clearly can change its mind if it wants. It's not the one country with permanently unwavering integrity that everyone can trust their lives to.

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Post by plugger »

plqbfbv wrote: post #305
plugger wrote: post #295

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure where you're getting this idea from, but my PHEV (BYD Shark 6) doesn't drop below 22% battery as the engine is there to charge the battery, not propel the vehicle. I also believe that most pure BEV drivers would charge their cars daily to mitigate the risk of range anxiety.

> I'm not sure where you're getting this idea from, but my PHEV (BYD Shark 6) doesn't drop below 22% battery as the engine is there to charge the battery, not propel the vehicle. > I also believe that most pure BEV drivers would charge their cars daily to mitigate the risk of range anxiety. (not parent poster) I got the perspective from people that wanted to help other people, but stopped repairing PHEVs: - https://e…

Cool. Thanks for demonstrating you have no idea of my usage. I charge every second day as I don't drive far or often. Sometimes I go 3 or more days as I'm actually trying to burn petrol to seat the seals on the pistons of my engine/generator.

Plus my 30kWh battery is Lithium Iron Phosphate. Your BEV is likely a Lithium-Ion? Regardless, I should get 3,000-5,000 full charge cycles on my battery. As long as I charge it to 100% once a week I should be golden.

I have a BYD dealership 25km from my house and a 6 year/150k KM warranty. I'm pretty sure people work there, they definitely were when I visited. Given that I'm pretty sure there are people repairing PHEVs.

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Post by plqbfbv »

plugger wrote: post #307
plqbfbv wrote: post #305

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm not sure where you're getting this idea from, but my PHEV (BYD Shark 6) doesn't drop below 22% battery as the engine is there to charge the battery, not propel the vehicle. > I also believe that most pure BEV drivers would charge their cars daily to mitigate the risk of range anxiety. (not parent poster) I got the perspective from people that wanted to help other people, but stopped repairing PHEVs: - https://e…

Cool. Thanks for demonstrating you have no idea of my usage. I charge every second day as I don't drive far or often. Sometimes I go 3 or more days as I'm actually trying to burn petrol to seat the seals on the pistons of my engine/generator. Plus my 30kWh battery is Lithium Iron Phosphate. Your BEV is likely a Lithium-Ion? Regardless, I should get 3,000-5,000 full charge cycles on my battery. As long as I charge it…

I'm happy that your usecase is a conscious one, that doesn't completely remove the issues of two powertrains to maintain and a smaller battery. BYD is better than average in this regard, and 30kW battery seems big enough that I agree with you, deep/frequent cycling is less of an issue.

Unfortunately that is not the experience for the average driver of a PHEV. Most people buy by brand, not by specs, so the average result is what you see in the links of EVClinic - 80`000km cars with fried batteries that cost more to replace than the resale value of the car itself (and again, as also noted by EVClinic IIRC, BYD is better than average in regard to repairs and parts cost).

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