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Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Running a small project on Hetzner from Germany. Got the email this morning. Honestly, even after the increase their dedicated boxes are still absurdly cheap compared to what you'd pay at AWS or GCP for equivalent specs. The real story here isn't Hetzner being greedy. It's that AI companies are vacuuming up every DRAM chip on the planet and the rest of us get to pay the tax. I priced out a RAM upgrade for my home ser…

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Everyone knows what they mean, it's obviously not a real "tax".

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 16 hours of audio/video per day was a reference to being alive and hearing/seeing things for years before you actually could learn the alphabet. It was not meant as literally sitting at a screen with audio/video for 16 hours a day.

I know, but the density of the data is much less in human case. IOW, humans still learn more effectively with less information, because there are innate mechanisms which process this data continuously and extract new meanings from the same data. This is part of both intelligence and consciousness. LLMs lack both.

> humans still learn more effectively with less information

> because there are innate mechanisms which process this data continuously and extract new meanings from the same data

To me, these statements strongly contradict each other, but I also really do not care enough to debate it.

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

#303

Running a small project on Hetzner from Germany. Got the email this morning. Honestly, even after the increase their dedicated boxes are still absurdly cheap compared to what you'd pay at AWS or GCP for equivalent specs. The real story here isn't Hetzner being greedy. It's that AI companies are vacuuming up every DRAM chip on the planet and the rest of us get to pay the tax. I priced out a RAM upgrade for my home ser…

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Man alive, stop being performatively dense. Getting to pay "the tax" in this context is just a colloquialism equating getting to pay "the burden".

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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post #171

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Why tax something that the market will figure out? This is normal and things will sort themself out.

We see that market is very irrational now and it can stay irrational for long enough to destroy everything we know in tech. By the time market figures things out, you may no longer have services, and hardware that you use daily. When such amounts of stupid money are pumped into a single industry, even if all AI companies went out of business tomorrow, it's going to take years for things to go back to normal. FWIW, I'…

> We see that market is very irrational now and it can stay irrational

That meme refers to speculation on stock market prices. Nobody is buying up RAM with the expectation of making speculative gains on it.

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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post #264

Running a small project on Hetzner from Germany. Got the email this morning. Honestly, even after the increase their dedicated boxes are still absurdly cheap compared to what you'd pay at AWS or GCP for equivalent specs. The real story here isn't Hetzner being greedy. It's that AI companies are vacuuming up every DRAM chip on the planet and the rest of us get to pay the tax. I priced out a RAM upgrade for my home ser…

But aren't those the same startups that think they need to run on AWS EKS instead of using a single cheap server? The cheapest used Hetzner server currently is €39.24 / month: - Intel Core i7-6700 - 32 GB - 2 x 480 GB Datacenter SSD - 1 GB/s - 20 TB traffic Their VPS are even cheaper. And you can run a lot on this.

Except 40€ a month is extremely poor value for this CPU that's more than a decade old.

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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My CCX13 (dedicated cores) went from 15€ to 20€ now. Looking at Netcup as alternative, more cores and more RAM for 12€ - anybody has experience with their root (kvm'ed) servers?

It's OK until you get into support troubles. I would say Scaleway/OVH might be better contender (but they are french hehehe).

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know, but the density of the data is much less in human case. IOW, humans still learn more effectively with less information, because there are innate mechanisms which process this data continuously and extract new meanings from the same data. This is part of both intelligence and consciousness. LLMs lack both.

> humans still learn more effectively with less information > because there are innate mechanisms which process this data continuously and extract new meanings from the same data To me, these statements strongly contradict each other, but I also really do not care enough to debate it.

I respect your disagreement and desire to leave the debate here. So we can agree to disagree.

Have a nice day.

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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post #233

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??? Micron has DRAM megafabs in both Idaho and New York state. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micron_Technology

> Currently, 100% of leading-edge DRAM production occurs overseas, primarily in East Asia.[0] They make DRAM for cars, not computers, in the USA. They've promised they'll bring manufacturing onshore any time soon, which effectively means they'll wait until Trump forgets about it. 0: https://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2025/06/president-trum...

That's not how it works, DRAM substrate (the actual chip that contains memory cells) is shared. It's only the packaging that differs.

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Pretty sure they are implying that the actions of the current president/administration are causing people to re-evaluate US dependencies. I don't really understand the first half

I think in the first part they are implying that there are very few independent companies to turn to. (I also prefer comments that are clear without insinuations).

What about all of the long-tail providers that are often listed on lowendbox.com and similar sites?
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