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Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by cedws »

OGEnthusiast wrote: post #160

The reason Liquid Glass on macOS specifically is getting so much blowback is that it isn't just updating the translucency effect with the new glass refraction effect - they've also increased the border radius of most windows, increased paddings in toolbars, sidebars, etc. and overall made the UI much less information-dense, which is wild for a desktop OS. If they had just changed the translucency effect, I think this…

Border radius on everything on Apple devices has been progressively increasing, eventually I expect everything to be circular. No rectangles allowed.

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Post by justahuman74 »

sho_hn wrote: post #219

Whew. Those screenshots: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/09/macos-26-tahoe-the-a... As a KDE Plasma dev, I always counted on us getting better, but I didn't expect the competition to get so much worse. We'd be flamed to high and heaven for shipping broken notification popups and rendering glitches like that in a prod release. What happened internally to cause this, I wonder?

My guess is organizational inertia around dependency chains

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Post by browningstreet »

_2d30 wrote: post #233

I decided to install this and the updated iOS today to see how I felt about it. My very initial impressions on MacOS: (1) I like the look of Safari better and the Mail app compared to the prior designs. They both look really nice to me and the Mail app especially looks like a huge improvement in terms of design unification with some of the features like summaries and unsubscribe options that looked bolted on in the p…

What I find weird: you can have light icons with color, dark icons with color, but not clear (and/or tinted) icons with color.

It’s a strange omission.

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Post by laborcontract »

coldtea wrote: post #229
smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

The Finder looks like shit. The sidebar is like badly retrofited from another program, perhaps from some crappy Gnome theme. The Control Center (or however they call the drop down window with quick controls for volume, wifi, brigthness, etc) has floating isolated icons like crap. Bring back Scott Forstall. Give him a big bonus. Let him fix this shit. Otherwise, the code changes and actual features are probably fine.

I’m glad to see another member of Club Forstall here. My biggest wish for Apple is to bring back Forstall. Letting him go was their biggest mistake.

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Post by renewiltord »

dijit wrote: post #240
christophilus wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. I know I’m not the first to say it, but it really does give me Windows Vista vibes. No bueno.

vista was pretty nice looking tbh (or, it was to me, especially the black ultimate edition with the frosted glass). It just chugged like madness, the UAC dialogs were slow to fade in (and numerous) and the widgets and moving wallpaper was about 10y too early. I was distinctly not happy with the control panel changes, but hindsight tells me that I should have been.

It’s funny how different people saw things. UAC was hated back then but I was a Linux user primarily and when I bought my laptop I kept the Windows Vista while dual booting. UAC mostly made sense and worked like gksudo.

I remember saying so once and got flamed by people online because of course Microsoft didn’t copy this from Linux and of course gksudo was much better.

But the subjective experience I had was the same. IMHO the greatest victory with Electron has been that the OS wars have practically ended.

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Post by viraptor »

llm_nerd wrote: post #205
fridder wrote: post #180

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If there is an alternative to the m-series that lets me keep the battery life I'd jump ship. The m-series chips are just so good though

You'd jump ship because of the .0 release of Tahoe? Really? People get a little hysterical about things like this. You know you don't have to upgrade to it, right? They'll support Sequoia for years, and you could even be running Sonoma if you wanted. The response to this design is likely to be so overwhelmingly negative that we'll see a lot of subtle retreats in the point releases going forward, and when the macOS 7…

> They'll support Sequoia for years, and you could even be running Sonoma if you wanted.

Unless the app you want doesn't support them anymore. Or the corporate policy forces an upgrade.

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Post by kstrauser »

Am I the only one here who thinks liquid glass is pretty? I like it.

More than that, I love the new Spotlight features, and the ability to remove apps from the menu bar without installing Ice (or the legacy Bartender).

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Post by vunderba »

00deadbeef wrote: post #127
smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

Everything I've seen of it looks a disaster. I'll wait for macOS 27.

I have a Mac M1 that's been on MacOS 14 Sonoma for a couple years at this point - I've not seen anything even remotely interesting in later releases that could incentivize me to roll the dice and upgrade.

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Post by spartanatreyu »

rcleveng wrote: post #156

I always considered the butterfly keyboard[1] the point at which Apple's design system jumped the shark as it focused on it's own aesthetics vs. building quality and reliable products. Funny enough, it's the only time period since 1999 that I was apple free for a while. My MBP broke. I've previously had a butterfly keyboard on my work mac, and it got replaced on a regular bases. While unfortunate for a work computer,…

> Seeing that Apple's returning to it's "design roots"

There's a very important and relevant design quote from Steve Jobs that keeps popping up in my head:

https://mastodon.world/@lensco/115184866965741757

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