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Post by kristianp »

danudey wrote: post #171
yogorenapan wrote: post #157

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I have an early batch framework (i7 11th gen) still in use (I have no other laptops or a PC). A few benefits I've gotten out of it: - I spilled almost a liter of milk on my keyboard, really gummed it up. Keys stopped working. Got it replaced for pretty cheap. - Linux just works. No weird driver issues But... - Battery life is horrible. I pretty much just have it plugged in whenever I can. When off battery, I use the…

FWIW, I had a Dell laptop that I put Ubuntu 22.04 on when I got it, and the battery life was atrocious; closing everything except Firefox, closing every FF tab but one, stopping background services, setting the screen to half brightness, I got about an hour and a half of battery life. Went and installed Slimbook Battery and left it at default settings and got several more hours of battery life without having to close…

Thanks for the tip, I'll have to try Slimbook battery and TLP out.

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Post by ItsHarper »

nine_k wrote: post #276
edgineer wrote: post #162

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I'm very happy to see Framework lead the USB power delivery pack by supporting 240W, 48V/5A charging on the Framework 16. As the first company to ship laptops using this spec, what problems or quirks, if any, have you seen from 48V charging in the field?

How thick must be the cable that delivers 48V @ 5A? I suppose not much thicker than normal, but still? Does this require a specialty cable to achieve that?

Increasing the voltage doesn't require a thicker cable, and 5A power starts with 100W USB-C PD. USB-C cables that support 5A aren't that thick, but they do need a special chip so that the devices know it's safe to send 5A.

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Post by jijijijij »

Monotoko wrote: post #123
rsyring wrote: post #95

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Buy the core parts from Framework and then buy & install things like NVMe and memory yourself. Will save a considerable amount.

Aye that's not a bad plan, to be honest I think my Strix still has a few years left at least but we'll see.

Judging by my experience with the Framework 13, you gain basically nothing going pre-built. The DIY work required is laughable. It's so, so easy and simple. If you don't account for nervousness, you could do it in 5 min, no problem. Comes with a very nice little screw driver, which is all you need.

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Post by nrp »

bsimpson wrote: post #273
jqr- wrote: post #263

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Same thing happened to me. It's because the original link is to the Romanian site.

Good catch! Didn't realize he wasn't OP.

We don't submit our own announcements :)

Agreed that it would be great if the submission link was updated to be frame.work/laptop16 instead though.

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Post by pickledish »

fooker wrote: post #262
nrp wrote: post #4

I'm happy to answer questions around the new product.

What's the bottleneck in getting a Macbook like touchpad experience in a modern non-Apple laptop? Is it software? Some specific company that won't sell parts to anyone else? Patents? I have tried several laptops, and nothing has even comes close in the last ten or so years. I am hoping you might have some unique insight into this! PS: Framework Laptop 16 looks great, will order one later this year and then get a GPU…

If you haven't seen it, this "Linux Touchpad like Macbook" project is related, the last/best effort I've seen in this direction. Here's a random update from a few years ago:

https://www.gitclear.com/blog/linux_touchpad_update_december...

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Post by yellowapple »

simpaticoder wrote: post #159
bevr1337 wrote: post #120

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I'm going to assume soldering on the main board is far outside the ability of most users. They're not through hole, big green boards like I learned on. It is certainly awesome for those that can, of course!

It does not make sense to praise a company for selling defective products because some of the customers have the ability to repair the defect.

It's a massive step up from the status quo of companies selling defective products without customers having the ability to repair the defect.

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Post by opan »

rustyminnow wrote: post #72
soperj wrote: post #53

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Thinkpads still have buttons. I don't ever use the trackpad, just the nub and buttons.

I would be all in on the nub if mine didn't have such terrible drift. Trackpad with top buttons beats any other trackpad though.

You may be running into the auto calibration.

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Post by Narishma »

kristianp wrote: post #281

You've got a 16 inch Laptop, why are the arrow keys so tiny! And where's the PgUp PgDn Home End Insert Delete cluster? I wish a design-based shop like Framework would have some leadership in the keyboard area. This is why I have been exclusively Thinkpads for my last 3 laptops. Something more niche is that I also enjoy the mouse buttons above the trackpad, I can move with the thumb and click with a finger.

At least the arrow keys are all the same size, unlike that super common awful design where the left and right keys are twice the size of the up and down keys.

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Post by extraisland »

rauli_ wrote: post #112
bodge5000 wrote: post #82

I'm glad the AMD GPU option still exists, I don't have great experience with NVIDIA on Linux. The rest of the upgrades, like the new top cover and keyboard, are very welcome

It's so weird to hear people who have problems with NVIDIA GPUs on Linux, because for me it's always been the opposite. I have had problems with AMD but never with NVIDIA.

AMD cards are plug and play for 99% of cases with Linux now. Everything just works out of the box.

The only issues you may run into if you distro doesn't include the firmware. e.g. This was the case with Debian 11 and you had to enable the non-free repo.

The only other problem you can conceivably have is card isn't supported by the kernel because it is too new. This can be fixed by upgrading the kernel. In Debian you can use a backports kernel, I am sure there are similar options in other distros.

When I was using my old 1080Ti, I had constant issues with the NVIDIA drivers. Acceleration didn't work on the second screen sometimes. There was some magic setting that would unset itself.

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