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Post by pradn »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #63
mrweasel wrote: post #29

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In the late 90s, early 2000, the Danish department of defence decided that they needed a new procurement system, DeMars, built on SAP. I know a sergent that worked in procurement at the time, he made insanely large purchases of everything he was responsible for in the months leading up to the launch. It came to the point where he was pulled in for questioning, on the suspicion of fraud. He explained that he had no fa…

When HP converted to SAP, I think their production basically stopped, for six months, and they lost $400 million. Switching to a new system; even when it is for the better, is a painful, expensive process. The company that I worked for, did a successful transition to SAP, but it took about two years, and a lot of butthurt.

They say its easier to change your company to fit SAP than to mold SAP to fit your company.

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Post by barbazoo »

rclkrtrzckr wrote: post #276

I am working for a medium sized Swiss company. We're coding our own ERP, based on a nightmare of a stack. We call it "security by confusion". An attacker would maybe find its way in, but he'll never find the way out. If he destroys 90% of our code, we'll still be up and running, because 95% of the codebase is obsolete.

This sounds like the kind of resiliency that a process like evolution would create :)

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Post by simion314 »

CapricornNoble wrote: post #228
simion314 wrote: post #199

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>Net Russian gains in June 2025 were 572 km^2.* In order for your statement to hold true, Russia would have suffered over half a million casualties in June alone. Where is your evidence to support such an assertion? Or my average is not a daily or monthly, do it again for the last 1 year. 2 years. Can you also calculare for us how many years until Ruzzia reaches Kyiv and how many casualties ?

> Or my average is not a daily or monthly, do it again for the last 1 year. 2 years. That would make even less sense. The thread I linked has the appropriate data going back to April 2024. We can toss that into a spreadsheet or LLM to get the total Russian gains in the past year, as you requested. ChatGPT calculates total Russian territorial control change at ~6000km^2. So are you now saying the Russians actually hav…

The advances are not linear, the Ruzzian advanced a lot in first days (there were some traitors in the Ukrainian army),. since then they advance at snail speed, my stats were from my memory, probably during winter when they attacked massively and gained almost nothing. If you have good data and can export it as csv then would be nice too see some graphs, like gains per month/week ,casualties per week and km^2 , distance from Kyiv.

In war a country can give up on some territory and move the army and government if needed into a better defended region, Ukrainians only need the will to fight and the Ruzzians provide them plenty of reasons not to be Russified.

So my stats were outdated or wrong, it is 5x, 10 x then ? Let me know a better number to use in future.

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Post by tmiku »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #66

I run a small home lab, about 30 services One day I decided to change my main disk and used the opportunity to rebuild everything from scratch and from backups. I was up in about an hour. And then I spent a week fixing this and that, ah yes I changed that too and, crap, I cannot remember why this thingie is set up this way. And some more. This is a one-man lab, with simple services, all on docker. I also work in IT.…

> I helped to recover my nearby hospital as a volunteer when it was ransomwared.

I'm curious about how you got in the door here. Very cool, but isn't healthcare IT notoriously cagey about access? I've had to do PHI training and background checks before getting into the system at my (admittedly only 2) PHI-centered jobs.

Granted, if it was such an emergency, I could see them rushing you through a lite version of the HR onboarding process. Did you have a connection in the hospital through whom you offered your services?

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Post by [deleted] »

Ray20 wrote: post #218
joules77 wrote: post #30

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It's not called Resilience if you pick on someone weaker. Western support to Ukraine has been a real joke - https://carnegieendowment.org/europe/strategic-europe/2025/0...

To be fair, it is quite difficult to support a regime where random people are grabbed off the streets and sent to their deaths. Where for expressing oppositional opinions your male relatives will have their door kicked down and will be sent to an assault on enemy position with a 90% mortality rate. And if they survive that - to another one just like it. To support a regime that has no long-term plan and goals for wag…

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

jon-wood wrote: post #97
WhyNotHugo wrote: post #70

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Modern IT practices don’t really contemplate disaster recovery. Even organisations with strict backup procedures seldom test recovery (most never at all). Everything is quickly strapped together due to teams being understaffed. Preparing infrastructure in a way such that it can easily be recreated is easily twice the effort as “just” setting it up the usual way.

That's a choice that companies make. I've certainly worked at places which don't test DR, while at my current job we do annual DR runs, where we'll bring up a complete production ready environment from scratch to prove that the backups work, and the runbook for doing a restore actually works.

I'm retired now, but the last place I worked estimated it would take months to do a full restore from off site backups, assuming that the data center and hardware were intact. If the data center was destroyed... Longer.

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Post by hosh »

The headline of the article called these people cyber activists, and in the text of the article, they were called cybercriminals. Which is it? It reminds me a bit with the situation with privateers during the age of sail. These were often people operating at the edge of the law, or even outright outlaws, given a letter of marque, a license to raid warships and commerce against a specific adversary. I'm sure out on the high seas, abuses happen.

The people who put together the doctrine on 4th Generation Warfare talked about the blurring of civilian and military. Rules of engagement gets fuzzier.

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Post by forinti »

hu3 wrote: post #102
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #66

I run a small home lab, about 30 services One day I decided to change my main disk and used the opportunity to rebuild everything from scratch and from backups. I was up in about an hour. And then I spent a week fixing this and that, ah yes I changed that too and, crap, I cannot remember why this thingie is set up this way. And some more. This is a one-man lab, with simple services, all on docker. I also work in IT.…

This is why documenting is so crucial. Even on a software architecture level. A few months from now, I'd love to have written down decisions for my current project: - Why did I decided to use Kysely over Drizzle, Knex, Prisma, TypeORM or other ORM/SQL tool? - How am I going to do migrations? - Why am I using one of Deno/Bun over sticking to nodejs? - Why did I structure the project as a directory per feature over con…

You also have to document alternative worlflows for your business while you don't get everything back to normal.

Lots of things can keep going with pen and paper or some cloud software.

At the very least, you have to communicate with your clients.

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Post by ceejayoz »

kbelder wrote: post #297
ceejayoz wrote: post #122

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Unless that’s Musk or Bezos’s alt account, that’s like fighting a forest fire with a squirt gun.

In 2024, charitable giving in the US was $592 billion. $392 billion of that was from individual donations. The US is a rich and (despite all you may hear) generous country. If 1% of our donations went to Ukraine, that's not a number to casually dismiss. Interestingly, $35 billion of that went to 'International affairs'. I would assume Ukraine was a significant part of that, but I don't know for sure. https://givingus…

> In 2024, charitable giving in the US was $592 billion. $392 billion of that was from individual donations.

That's a single-digit percentage of the US Federal budget.

Some of that goes to "family foundation" sinecures. Some of it goes to 10% church tithes. Quite a bit of it is spent on… raising funds. (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/when-giving-to-charity-ask-wher... - "Of the more than $1.3 billion raised by charities in the [New York] in 2018, about $369 million — or 27% — went to pay professional fundraisers' fees")

> If 1% of our donations went to Ukraine, that's not a number to casually dismiss.

I think that's wildly optimistic, but that'd be somewhere between $3-5B. The US alone has earmarked something like $200B thus far. The EU has given a similar amount.

Every bit undoubtedly counts, but a single Patriot battery costs $1B.

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hosh wrote: post #307

The headline of the article called these people cyber activists, and in the text of the article, they were called cybercriminals. Which is it? It reminds me a bit with the situation with privateers during the age of sail. These were often people operating at the edge of the law, or even outright outlaws, given a letter of marque, a license to raid warships and commerce against a specific adversary. I'm sure out on th…

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