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Material 3 Expressive

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Post by spencerflem »

freedomben wrote: post #240
lucianbr wrote: post #143

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Couldn't agree more. It's basically a page with some pictures in it, and everything in it loaded so late for me that initially I wondered why they left so many large empty spaces in the page. This could work and be fast with tech from at least 20 years ago, probably even more. It's really incredible this is output from a company valued in trillions.

Indeed. Google is the worst at designing around lazy loading. Their UIs in Drive, Youtube Music, and others essentially become unusable once the list gets long. God forbid you don't have a super low latency connection straight to the data center. Even holding open a web socket to fetch "next pages" doesn't cut it in most of the real world. If you're gonna lazy load (which I admit sometimes does make sense) you need t…

The crazy thing is, theyve written one of the best guides on the internet on how to do an infinite scrolling list: https://developer.chrome.com/blog/infinite-scroller

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Post by everybodyknows »

worble wrote: post #88
martin_a wrote: post #9

Instantly hate that page for changing my cursor. Why do they even do that?

Also after scrolling halfway down the page it decided to change from dark to light theme and I felt like I got flashbanged Thanks for that

It's quite a new way to disempower the user: Both demonstrate that they're fully capable of supporting switching to dark mode, and that they choose to ignore the user's stated settings preference.

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Post by skydhash »

_fat_santa wrote: post #188
dgimla20 wrote: post #37

Material Design v1 cracked it. It was simple to implement, simple to understand and simple to use. Minimal overheads with a clear content-first approach. "It's time to move beyond “clean” and “boring” designs to create interfaces that connect with people on an emotional level." I don't want websites and apps to connect with me on an emotional level. I want to turn my phone/computer on, use the app/program to achieve…

> I don't want websites and apps to connect with me on an emotional level. I want to turn my phone/computer on, use the app/program to achieve what I'm trying to do, and turn it off again Building a B2B SaaS app one of the most refreshing thoughts I've had about it was: "people don't like using my app". The software I'm building nobody wants to use, but they have to use it for their work. Given that I try my hardest…

My best experience with job-related software was a data entry program (I forgot the name). It had a windows classic UI (on windows 8) and fully keyboard driven. After a few days, I could just look at the paper form and enter the data without looking at the screen. Very usable on a 11inch screen.

These days, I mostly reverted to a Emacs/TUI workflow. Padding and animations makes everything less usable.

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Post by abraxas »

maelito wrote: post #168

The email send button is such a bad example : for 5 seconds spent on finding the button the first time, one will use this same button thousands of time and know perfectly where it is. On the contrary, one will spend time writing the email in the long run. The new design has way less room for writing. Also, just shifting the place of the button would have resolved most of the problem. Also, RIP small phones. These new…

I guess Gemini will be writing emails going forward so no need to have a meaningful text input field.

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Post by wltr »

xinayder wrote: post #186
dgimla20 wrote: post #37

Material Design v1 cracked it. It was simple to implement, simple to understand and simple to use. Minimal overheads with a clear content-first approach. "It's time to move beyond “clean” and “boring” designs to create interfaces that connect with people on an emotional level." I don't want websites and apps to connect with me on an emotional level. I want to turn my phone/computer on, use the app/program to achieve…

They managed to connect me to an emotional level that I just want to throw my phone away and get a phone that supports postmarketOS. I despise the new designs so much, they are so useless and try to take away important information on the screen for absolutely no reason. While making everything round and trying so hard to copy iOS, but making a shitty job at it.

But … that way phones would get obsolete much faster, and so you’d be able to buy an obsolete sluggish Pixel of two years old, and install something different on it! Like Lineage, Graphene, Postmarket.

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Post by wapeoifjaweofji »

dcre wrote: post #263
edoceo wrote: post #220

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Arrreg!! So many of these React (et al) sites, with poorly re-built elements and break the built-in functionality! The A tag works perfect! But no, we need three or four nested divs, components, and many lines of JS to end up with something worse. Is React the driver? Do devs just not know? Is management pushing garbage?

If you render an in React (or Angular, which I think they're using here), it's just an ! You have to do extra work to fuck it up!

I'll generally excuse things like laziness and incompetence, because I understand that not everyone is good at their jobs.

But this:

> You have to do extra work to fuck it up!

resonates so hard. I get so angry at people who take extra time out of their day to put so much effort into making things worse. So many things on the internet are fine, but people spend so much on making them worse. Who is this good for? Not me, and likely not the person who wasted their time ruining functional things.

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Post by wltr »

johnisgood wrote: post #135
dgimla20 wrote: post #65

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Thanks for writing this. It's refreshing to see there's a bunch of us in the same boat. I think you've hit the nail on the head about the two worlds. My phone sits in my pocket most of the day and just comes out when I need it. Every day I see people looking at their phone as they walk through busy streets, walk their dog, pushing prams, at the gym on the treadmills, bikes and on the machines. Especially jarring to s…

Yeah, my phone is just an accessory I keep in my pocket, but only when I know I may need it for something, e.g. time or calls. Sometimes I do not even take it with myself. No reason for me to do that. I just hit 30.

I feel you guys, but do you read and write here from your laptops? I never come here from a desktop browser, only a smartphone.

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Post by ugh123 »

I sat watching that lame video (clip?) for about 30 seconds waiting for something to happen before I realized there was scrollable content. Google's UX continues to be awful
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