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Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by testing22321 »

philk10 wrote: post #150

Seen on Bluesy "The NPR/PBS executive order is a sign of weakness. Republicans were going to put that cut into a rescission bill, which has been delayed as reconciliation took precedence. The likely story is that Republicans found that they didn't have the votes for it, so Trump had to go it alone."

It’s a sign of weakness because trump has to squash the truth from being broadcast so he can stay in power and do whatever he wants.

Plenty of identical example in history, none of them lead to good things.

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Post by ziddoap »

laborcontract wrote: post #295
ziddoap wrote: post #234

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> would you prefer what’s happening in brazil? I prefer not to do what aboutism. > what kind of powers do you envision the judiciary having to rectify these wrongs? Isn't that supposed to be figured out already? What is "checks and balances" if they can just be ignored? Impeachment for ignoring supreme court orders would be one example.

Obama dropped a bomb on a us citizen without giving him due process. How should this case be handled? Like i said, american presidents causing untold misery on some people is a tale as old as time. The point is to create a system that is, on balance, just.

>Obama dropped a bomb on a us citizen without giving him due process

>american presidents causing untold misery on some people is a tale as old as time

This is continued whataboutism, which I'm simply not interested in participating in a conversation with.

>The point is to create a system that is, on balance, just.

Sure! Why not start now. I'll be eagerly watching, and hoping, that you guys figure it out.

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Post by Der_Einzige »

sidewndr46 wrote: post #270
sorcerer-mar wrote: post #225

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SCOTUS (and other courts) can deputize whoever they want pretty much. And this is what the states' National Guards are for (very scary thought)

The "states" national guard can be federalized at a moment's notice. The president need only give the order and put his signature on it. At that point, they report to the President and no one else. This isn't theory, Alabama's was federalized some time when my dad was a kid. The president never rescinded the order.

De jure doesn't matter when the law has been tossed aside.

The loyalties of the individuals, units, officers will choose sides on their own. I'm not holding my breath on the military being willing to enmass defect against an authoritarian though.

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Post by dfxm12 »

cyberlurker wrote: post #69
beardedwizard wrote: post #42

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I'm a big supporter of NPR but you don't need to look hard to see their progressive bias.

I listen to planet money and a few other podcasts. They seem pretty fair to me. The only way I could maybe see a progressive bias is that they have representation in their staff of racial and sexual minorities. I see no issue with that. Honest question, does NPR have any token conservative pundits or voices on their broadcasts or shows? I know they have a lot of minority representation. As usual, Trumps proposed solu…

does NPR have any token conservative pundits or voices on their broadcasts or shows?

They do the same format almost all news shows do where they introduce an issue and have two people with opposing views discuss it (there was a recent one about fossil fuels and renewables which I can't find...). This format doesn't always fall along "conservative vs other" lines though, because issues aren't necessarily that simple.

They also have one on one interview with Republican lawmakers as well. This one is from today's Morning Edition: https://www.npr.org/2025/05/02/nx-s1-5383297/rep-jeff-hurd-d...

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Post by mariusor »

Teever wrote: post #271
timdiggerm wrote: post #244

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You're right that last time there were "adults in the room" trying to keep him in check. This time, however, he's often doing whatever Heritage/Project 2025 tell him to do. Russell Vought, Stephen Miller, John McEntee, etc.

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Frankly I haven't seen any attempt to counter this type of opinion. Do you have any counter-arguments against whatever the Trump administration is doing right now to the US government and its citizens being out of the Project 25 playbook?

[edit] Downvote all you want, but please tell me why I'm wrong.

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Post by alabastervlog »

great_wubwub wrote: post #132
whoknew1122 wrote: post #115

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I'm not sure how important that is to remember. The president is issuing the orders. The president is chief executive of the country. The president can't pawn off responsibility to some White House staffer or think tank. An executive order is the president's order. Is it useful to look at the people who wrote or lobbied for the order? Perhaps if you want to want to understand the context of an order. But none of that…

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The civil war between the competing factions behind the scenes when he kicks it should at least make for some good entertainment. So we have that to look forward to.

I expect it to make the film Death of Stalin look like a depiction of an amiable, staid, and sensible process purely in service of the public good, by comparison.

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Post by mattmaroon »

bhouston wrote: post #3

The US is so weird right now. You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. Also arresting and trying to deport people for things that are not clearly crimes (newspaper op-eds, etc) and without due process. Very strange times. Right now I have some faith the…

The design of the system is such that there are several dams so any particular one doesn’t need to hold forever. It’ll hold for a few years, but not a few decades, and hopefully the flood will recede.

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Post by Der_Einzige »

pjc50 wrote: post #116
gwd wrote: post #77

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I think the guardrails were designed to hold someone like Trump once ; and then afterwards he was supposed to be convicted of his crimes, or at least never elected again. The guardrails are fundamentally held in place by hundreds of thousands of individuals making individual decisions. People who are asked to break the law can expect that in a few years they'll be vindicated, or at least fear that in a few years they…

The "original sin" of the founders was accepting the slave states. That embedded the hypocrisy that freedom was only for some people. The constitution proofed against an individual trying to seize power pretty well. It's difficult for a random Army officer or religious leader to catapult himself into a dictator position. But what it does not and cannot prevent against is determined tyranny of the majority.

There were "actually good" founding fathers who were vehemently anti-slavery and even non racist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Paine being the most famous example. Unfortunately, they are kept as relative footnotes in history, due to their subversive economic messaging.

The intellectual foundations of Thomas Paine run through the thinking of Henry George and Andrew Yang, among many others. All listed figures are basically footnotes in the dustbin of history - and humanity will pay a dear cost for ignoring their voices.

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Post by wing-_-nuts »

stackbutterflow wrote: post #245
TwoNineA wrote: post #48

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Not weird. It's textbook fascism.

It's hard for people to accept it because it raises new questions about the reaction to adopt. If it's true then you know you should resist or you're complicit. A lot ot of 20/30/40 something Americans are going to have very difficult conversations with the new generations in 30+ years.

>If it's true then you know you should resist or you're complicit.

Resist how exactly? Protest? We're already protesting. They're barely being covered in the news. Armed resistance? Yeah that's gonna work out so well against a militarized police state.

Look through history, from the fall of rome to wwII, and those that came out best during those crises had the good sense to flee to somewhere better.

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