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Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by Workaccount2 »

mathgeek wrote: post #9
bhouston wrote: post #3

The US is so weird right now. You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. Also arresting and trying to deport people for things that are not clearly crimes (newspaper op-eds, etc) and without due process. Very strange times. Right now I have some faith the…

> You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. It’s important to remember that while the President issues the orders, there are other actors behind the scenes writing them for him. They have goals that go beyond a single man considering ideological crimes.

I'm pretty sure with Trump this time around it is much less the case. In his first admin there are endless stories of the "Adults" in the room keeping him in check.

This time around he was sure to only fill his cabinet with yes men, so no one could keep him reigned in.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by vel0city »

afavour wrote: post #29
bhouston wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you explain and reference sources? Otherwise it is a pretty vague comment.

I would imagine Project 2025 is a good source here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 Every American owes it to themselves to familiarize themselves with the project and its aims, because a number of its authors are the ones wielding power right now.

It's insane to me how many people argued with me that Project 2025 was democrat propaganda to smear Trump. Both online here on Hacker News and in person.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by adenverd »

Eextra953 wrote: post #74

Another lame attempt at ruling by decree. The CPB was deliberately designed with guardrails to avoid partisanship - the president appoints board members, and no more than five from the same party. If you've listened to NPR or watched PBS, you know they're about as neutral as you can get while still covering both mainstream sides. This style of governance is so lazy - instead of working through Congress to change the…

> If you've listened to NPR or watched PBS, you know they're about as neutral as you can get while still covering both mainstream sides.

NPR is about as far from neutral as media gets, both in topics they choose to cover and in editorial bias.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by whoknew1122 »

mathgeek wrote: post #9
bhouston wrote: post #3

The US is so weird right now. You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. Also arresting and trying to deport people for things that are not clearly crimes (newspaper op-eds, etc) and without due process. Very strange times. Right now I have some faith the…

> You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. It’s important to remember that while the President issues the orders, there are other actors behind the scenes writing them for him. They have goals that go beyond a single man considering ideological crimes.

I'm not sure how important that is to remember. The president is issuing the orders. The president is chief executive of the country.

The president can't pawn off responsibility to some White House staffer or think tank. An executive order is the president's order.

Is it useful to look at the people who wrote or lobbied for the order? Perhaps if you want to want to understand the context of an order. But none of that context mitigates the president's responsibility for any order. At the end of the day, it is a single person exercising their sole authority to issue executive orders.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by pjc50 »

gwd wrote: post #77
hypeatei wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Right now I have some faith the courts in the US will stand up to this I think "the guardrails will hold" thinking is flawed when you have someone who is willing to completely side step the system and push the limits. We're not actually sure what holding someone from this administration in contempt even looks like functionally since U.S. marshals are under the DOJ.

I think the guardrails were designed to hold someone like Trump once ; and then afterwards he was supposed to be convicted of his crimes, or at least never elected again. The guardrails are fundamentally held in place by hundreds of thousands of individuals making individual decisions. People who are asked to break the law can expect that in a few years they'll be vindicated, or at least fear that in a few years they…

The "original sin" of the founders was accepting the slave states. That embedded the hypocrisy that freedom was only for some people. The constitution proofed against an individual trying to seize power pretty well. It's difficult for a random Army officer or religious leader to catapult himself into a dictator position. But what it does not and cannot prevent against is determined tyranny of the majority.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by xienze »

josefritzishere wrote: post #28
bhouston wrote: post #3

The US is so weird right now. You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. Also arresting and trying to deport people for things that are not clearly crimes (newspaper op-eds, etc) and without due process. Very strange times. Right now I have some faith the…

I find that many of us, somewhat passively, including myself, have been using the term "strange" to describe the American poltitical situation. I think this is to avoid using more charged political terms that are actaully more accurate like fascist, authoritarian, dictator... These are dictionary words which are increasingly apropos.

> I think this is to avoid using more charged political terms that are actaully more accurate like fascist, authoritarian, dictator

Because those words have been overused to the point of no one caring anymore. For those too young to remember, George W. Bush was _also_ called “literally Hitler”, a fascist, dumbest man alive, you name it. The left’s go-to of labeling every single Republican “Nazi” for decades is partially to blame here.

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Post by [deleted] »

bhouston wrote: post #3

The US is so weird right now. You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. Also arresting and trying to deport people for things that are not clearly crimes (newspaper op-eds, etc) and without due process. Very strange times. Right now I have some faith the…

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Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by transcriptase »

mmastrac wrote: post #4

This is quite sad. PBS and NPR were jewels of the American system. The right-wing has latched on to the message that all public-funded media that isn't right-wing-biased is _bad_ and are trying to kill it everywhere. We are constantly fighting the same battle in Canada where the right-wing accuses media of being left-leaning, while most major news outlets are actually American-owned and slant right a lot of the time.…

The issue in Canada is that the CBC, despite having excellent journalists, investigative, local, and otherwise, and being an invaluable resource to many small communities, is overwhelmingly (but not entirely) biased in favour of one political party and whatever identity politics are currently the mainstay of their image. And it’s the party that nearly always campaigns on increasing their funding.

I love(d) the CBC. I grew up watching it every day, and listening to it on the radio in the car. Some of the programming is still fantastic, but tuning into a national broadcast funded by the taxpayer, one would expect by chance alone to go more than 5 consecutive minutes without hearing someone bring up “black”, “queer”, “indigenous”, “climate change” or having every caller or interview be some sort of spokesperson or research chair with one of those words in their title. Combined with things like job listings explicitly but professionally saying “white men need not apply”, most reasonable individuals would say they turned certain dials a little too far left for anyone listening that’s not a young progressive or outside of an urban core.

They also tend to leave out facts or context from certain topics and news stories where including it may reflect poorly on certain groups or a person of a certain identity. Lying by omission for the greater good is an editorial decision they’re comfortable with, leaving those who use it as their sole news source with stances that align broadly with progressive beliefs of systemic XYZ or discrimination in events where it’s a spurious assertion when considering details they leave out.

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