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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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> Keep your god out of work! That is very easy to type from the comfort of your home on your mobile phone. After several days of deprivations and hardships, including sleeping in a fully-lighted cold cell without even a blanket, you will get any help and support that you can get.

Proselytizing isn't help. A mentally ill woman shrieking about a wizard who lives in the sky isn't support.

Perhaps, but you would not have said that to her if you were there.

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I'm sorry, but the article seems to obscure a key fact, which is that she travelled to the US AFTER her initial visa was revoked. It seems dumb to travel to a country that has explicitly revoked your visa without being granted a new one! Nobody stopped her from getting on a plane because nobody checks if Canadians have a visa or not since they don't need one for short visits or stays. In this case her visa was revoke…

So she probably was alright with the law (short stay) but not with the system if I understand correctly. Still, wouldn't her detention be arbitrary and thus fall foul of habeas corpus principles which I have no doubt are in the US law?

> Still, wouldn't her detention be arbitrary and thus fall foul of habeas corpus principles which I have no doubt are in the US law?

That's for a court to determine, and I'm sure it takes several weeks at least for something like this to make its way through the court system.

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The part OP is scared of and points to is some border guard revoking your visa, which probably implies you losing your job and having to leave the country you live in. This is scary because it is a very big, bad outcome to be totally in the authority of a random border guard to decide. Waking out by guards and dogs barking on a train is scary in its own right the moment it happens, but we are talking about totally di…

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It's not nonsense, people are following all the rules and then having some thug with no ability or willingness to understand the situation revoke their visa. This can and will ruin lives I don't see how you're not seeing the problem here

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> This incompetence has only happened since Can we be sure? Do we have stats? If you look at international press, horror stories happen everywhere, semi-certified (the press from Country C diffident against Country Y will publish if they have a warning piece). The issue is telling the exception from the norm and similar.

Yes, and exceptions from the norm get extra publicity when it fits a press narrative.

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However, the US has long been very clear: constitutional rights only apply to citizens . US law is perfectly happy with arbitrary brutality towards non-citizens. (ECHR is different on this, which has caused a lot of controversy in the UK from people who want to be arbitrarily brutal towards non-citizens)

> However, the US has long been very clear: constitutional rights only apply to citizens. Nope, most of the constitutional rights apply to all people under the jurisdiction of the US. It's why the Bush administration set up Guantanamo--to try to evade any hint of constitutional protection, and he still failed that. (Of course, as Guantanamo also shows, the remedies available to people whose constitutional rights have…

> constitutional rights apply to all people

Not within 100 miles of the border unfortunately. https://www.aclu.org/documents/constitution-100-mile-border-...

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>>science-denying Citation needed. >>Look at the protests in Hungary, look at Serbia—that’s how you stand up to a fascist That's how you get EU and USAID funding to standup to a president outside of the WEF overton window, certainly.

> hat's how you get EU and USAID funding to standup to a president outside of the WEF overton window, certainly. Is this some US-based fiction among maga fanatics to pat on their wobbly backs? Those people protest for they want freedom and self-determination in their lives, something even maga supporter with lowest IQ in the crowd should comprehend - the need for personal freedom is natural to all humans, yes even th…

You don't think the EU would like to see Orban gone? Do you think the election of Tusk in Poland was completely organic?

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Yes. This is the reality of how it is. It’s unfair that this woman was caught in this but CBP have ultimate power crossing the border can be scary. My friend got her visa stripped and given a 10 year ban under Obama because of jokes in her text messages about a GC marriage. She didn’t get thrown in jail but she was refused entry back into the US and had to get someone to sell all her stuff while she flew back to her…

AFAIK, the Australian system doesn’t operate like this for visa overstays. Your friend may be confused with asylum applications for those who arrive by boat (which isn’t often used in practice). https://www.unsw.edu.au/content/dam/pdfs/law/kaldor/factshee...

Yes they arrest them and throw them in jail but not offshore jails. I was wrong about that, I checked with my friend.

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If the objective is to scare people off from going to the USA, then they're doing a magnificent job. I've heard other cases of people with green cards being arrested and put in terrible conditions, with absolutely no reason given. This woman was ready to go back home and not enter the US, but instead she was dragged through hell and only released because she was Canadian. All those with different passports get subjec…

New America? I beg to differ. The United States has always been hostile to outsiders—what’s different now is that they’re not even trying to hide it. As a naturalized Canadian, crossing the U.S. border has always been a frustrating ordeal. Despite holding a valid Canadian passport, I’m routinely subjected to an extra hour of “security” questioning. Maybe I’m just unlucky. Or maybe it’s because I was born in an "undes…

For whatever it's worth, I'm treated this way as a white American. I'm selected for extra screening every single time I reenter the country. Though, I don't think it's ever been longer that 30 minutes or so. I don't know why but some combination of having a beard, being naturally anxious and having traveled to "unusual" countries -- at least by American standards. Crossing the border makes for a guaranteed panic attack and I've let my passport expire. It's a damn shame, too, because it's depriving my kids of invaluable life experiences and has brought my relationship with my spouse (who loves to travel) to the brink on multiple occasions.

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I know it supposedly doesn't work, but @dang : brigade flagging (and user-based unflagging/vouching of submissions) really needs to be looked at, in light of the current political reality. There's a substantive article here, and a substantive discussion, and it's user shadow-banned off HN because someone didn't like the political tilt. HN is going to start shedding exactly the sort of quality users that make it great…

Yes. Maybe PG doesn't care.

does pg even think about this place these days?

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> All Harris had to do to win was promise to stop sending arms to Israel. Not sending arms to allies seems to be a good way to piss them off.

Conducting genocide is supposed to be a good way to piss off "allies". That's domestic and international law, by the way.

Well, what did putting Trump back into office do to stymie it?
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