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Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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Post by djeastm »

swatcoder wrote: post #158
rtsil wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Off the top of my head, and just for the last couple of months, and only outside of work (where its value is even more immense), it has saved one of my indoor plants, told me how to handle a major boiler problem that would have left us without a working boiler during a weekend in the winder, with the next "emergency" repairman only available on Monday, advised me to use Kopia as backup solution for my personal files…

Yes, but which of those things would you not have resolved just as well 10 years ago? All those possibilities were added by the maturing web itself, as a genuinely novel change from having to source books or experts/friends in the days before. I'm glad ChatGPT didn't lead you astray, but I'm not seeing what it's added here besides shuffling up the user interface in a way that you presently and subjectively prefer?

>besides shuffling up the user interface

I wouldn't discount this effect. As someone with sensory issues, one thing I like about ChatGPT as opposed to the "raw" internet is that I can see the answer to my questions in a nice and calm textual format without some website who created the article specifically to catch my search terms, but is trying to get me to deceptively click on ads or pull me into buying something through their affiliate links. That's absolutely increased my own enjoyment and productivity.

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Post by infecto »

tpdly wrote: post #88
infecto wrote: post #42

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Yes, surely they only have one type of Software Engineer and they all know how to improve model quality. Alternatively, does it not seem more likely that they have different product groups? Surely the folks working on ChatGPT are an entirely different beast than the folks working in model development?

Yes, surely a sarcastic reductio ad absurdum of what was was said will inspire dialogue. I think the GP's point is that their investing in new distribution channels could mean ROI in models has diminished significantly. Incidentally, I disagree with GP that's what this means-- this is another investment in brand awareness, AND data for multi-modal/audio. They might have gotten to 1080p for text chat but definitely no…

Nothing more absurd than your response. OpenAI has a large engineering staff, it’s foolish to say they are all working on advancing models. The folks working on ChatGPT are going to continue working on ChatGPT. Let’s not even forget that O1 just got released recently.

Nothing I said was absurd in response to making an unsupported idea that model development has plateaued.

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Post by shepherdjerred »

SkyPuncher wrote: post #260
gradus_ad wrote: post #164

Seems gimmicky. An audio wrapper on top of ChatGPT accessible by phone... Neither technically impressive nor an improvement to user experience. Sorry for the negativity, I'm trying to remain AI hyped but it's difficult.

Huge user improvement for me. I can now ask my phone to call ChatGPT. 100% hands-free. It’s only a few steps less than using the app, but there’s a lot of incremental value to not needing to touch my phone. Concrete example: I’m driving. I ask Siri a simple question, but it can’t answer it. Previously, if I wanted to use ChatGPT, I’d have to stop, pickup my phone, unlock, open the app, get my answer, then start drivi…

Siri can already use ChatGPT

https://support.apple.com/en-mo/guide/iphone/iph00fd3c8c2/io...

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Post by Sean-Der »

aschobel wrote: post #283
Sean-Der wrote: post #166

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Yep! Twilio is providing the SIP Trunking. We are running our own SIP servers though.

Neat, why do you run your own SIP servers as Twillio can do that for you? Better control of the codec?

Lots of custom logic

* Limit user to 15m a month * Greetings unique to user state

It also needs access to Model/DB etc… which is all not exposable to internet

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Post by d0gsg0w00f »

crazygringo wrote: post #256
frakt0x90 wrote: post #215

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I get it's just an example, but are we really this far gone? Just watch a random movie and if you don't like it, pick another. This is such an extreme micro-optimization of a small experience.

You don't often know if a movie is good until you've finished it, because it all depends on how the story came together in the end. You can spend 2 hours watching a moving, emotional story that teaches you something new about the human condition and the choices we make in our lives. Or you can spend 2 hours that turns out to be full of plot holes and inconsistent characters, where nothing makes sense in the end and y…

Because life just isn't perfect. If you go seeking this perfect optimization in every aspect of your life then the world is going to be a continual disappointment.

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Post by etbebl »

WhitneyLand wrote: post #77
cco wrote: post #5

100% shipped to show off to family during Christmas. I'll definitely give it a go, I wonder if this lands better with those aged 50+ who are more used to phone calls rather than chat.

So the perception of those aged 50+, is one of people so far removed from technology they’d prefer to use a telephone to avoid their discomfort with computers? I’m well into this group and still make a lot more api calls than phone calls. Fresh out of college I recall vividly thinking, I’ll need to build an impressive list of side projects to overcome preconceptions about how much I can truly offer at my age. Maybe n…

Just one data point but my father is in his 70s and has never owned a smartphone, when he wants to Google something he goes to the computer in the basement. On the other hand there are landline extensions all over the house. So yeah it would be more convenient for people like him.

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Post by glenstein »

whimsicalism wrote: post #264
glenstein wrote: post #247

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Because it shows that it's perfectly plausible for people ages 50 plus to appreciate the value out of these technologies every bit as much as us whippersnappers. Some of them are writing books about it, after all

those books are not really at all about the techniques used in llms

You seem to have forgotten the context of this conversation. Right now we're talking about whether 50+ somethings can appreciate the value proposition of the 1-800 line and more generally of the whole line of GPT releases presently coming out.

Pointing to the book authorship help support the intuition that our Gen X friends are able to get it, because after all, it's not out of the question for them to be involved in these very fields. I don't think any of those points, which again in this context are the points that are under discussion, are things that hinge on whether or not the book specifically addressed particular llm methodologies.

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Post by airstrike »

bigfudge wrote: post #249
airstrike wrote: post #152

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stop using it like a database that you can query

Agreed this is a bad idea in the case you are replying to, but I love ChatGPT as a way to recover the name of a book or film I’ve forgotten. I recently prompted for “a book about nuclear wasteland dominated by a church” and it gave me A canticle for Leibowitz (which is great). I’m not sure how easy that would be any other way.

absolutely, I've been using it for that at lot as well and it's remarkably well suited for it. there's really no better tool for the job.

it's just that every thread about LLMs in AI invariably has someone complaining about best results from a query best described as `SELECT * FROM...`

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