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Maybe they trust Pokemon as a IP? Usually Nintendo keeps your data safe.
Is this model not a safe use of the data?
Well, if it's being used for "military" purposes, it's sure not safe for someone!
Niantic plans a “Large Geospatial Model” trained on Pokémon Go player data
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Re: Niantic plans a “Large Geospatial Model” trained on Pokémon Go player data
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Because not everyone is a seasoned IT professional.
I don't think you need to be an "IT professional" to understand that not paying money doesn't imply that you aren't giving away value.
It might even go further than that - I'd say the typical person is more suspicious of free open-source software than the typical "IT professional".
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This post’s replies makes it clear a lot of us don’t recognize humor. Do people really think MyFitnessPal is trying to build a model of the average pantry?
The humor isn’t recognized because the humor isn’t there. To be funny there has to be a setup, a punchline, some kinda joke structure. Humor isn’t just saying false things… Imagine a comedian saying this on stage, how many laughs would that get? > Do people really think MyFitnessPal is trying to build a model of the average pantry? We’ve all seen dumber things that are real. Juicero is my personal favorite example.
The humor is attained afterwards when one reads the comments who take it seriously, they become the punchline.
That completes the circuit. It's a nice setup.
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#304Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I feel … I have been tricked Everything “free” coming from a company means they’ve found a way to monetise you in some way. The big long ToS we all casually accept without reading says so too. Other random examples which appear free but aren’t: using a search engine, using the browser that comes with your phone, instagram, YouTube… etc. It’s not always about data collection, sometimes it’s platform lock-in, or some…
Hiding shady or unexpected stuff in the TOS is illegal in the EU and other countries for example. So just because some companies behave amoral, that doesn’t mean we just have to accept hundreds of pages of legalese being able to dictate us.
We don't have to accept it no, but also you shouldn't be dumbfounded when it happens. Always assume everyone is doing it.
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All companies should be truthful, forthcoming, and specific about how they will use your data, but… If you enjoy the game, play the game. Don’t boycott/withhold because they figured out an additional use for data that didn’t previously exist. Another way of viewing this: GoogleMaps is incredibly high quality mapping software with lots of extra features. It is mostly free (for the end user). If no one uses it, Google…
> All companies should be truthful, forthcoming, and specific about how they will use your data, but… I'm fairly sure, if you read the terms-and-conditions, it probably said that the company owns this data and can do what they want with it. > There’s no reason to hold out for a company to pay you for your geolocation data because none of them offer that service. Well, it can make perfect sense (to some people) to hol…
> terms-and-conditions
I would argue that's being legally truthful, but not practically truthful. The company knows there are ways they can ensure their consumers are aware of the truth. And they know that burying it in Ts and Cs isn't one of them.
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#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I feel … I have been tricked Everything “free” coming from a company means they’ve found a way to monetise you in some way. The big long ToS we all casually accept without reading says so too. Other random examples which appear free but aren’t: using a search engine, using the browser that comes with your phone, instagram, YouTube… etc. It’s not always about data collection, sometimes it’s platform lock-in, or some…
only a sith speaks in absolute. plenty of especially free AI products out there
They're free because they're either gathering more data or trying to capture the market.
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#307Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I feel … I have been tricked Everything “free” coming from a company means they’ve found a way to monetise you in some way. The big long ToS we all casually accept without reading says so too. Other random examples which appear free but aren’t: using a search engine, using the browser that comes with your phone, instagram, YouTube… etc. It’s not always about data collection, sometimes it’s platform lock-in, or some…
Hiding shady or unexpected stuff in the TOS is illegal in the EU and other countries for example. So just because some companies behave amoral, that doesn’t mean we just have to accept hundreds of pages of legalese being able to dictate us.
I don’t think there is something amoral here. Niantic explicitly sends players to take videos of places for rewards. It’s not like it’s done in a sneaky way.
Being somehow surprised they actually plan to do things with the data they have you gather is a bit weird.
Re: Niantic plans a “Large Geospatial Model” trained on Pokémon Go player data
#308We do this at [name redacted as this was a joke]. When users scan their barcode, the preview window is zoomed in so users think its mostly barcode. We actually get quite a bit more background noise typically of a fridge, supermarket aisle, pantry etc. but it is sent across to us, stored, and trained on. Within the next year we will have a pretty good idea of the average pantry, fridge, supermarket aisle. Who knows wh…
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> Unsarcastically, a lot of people believe user data belongs to users, and that they should have a say in how it's used I can understand that people believe this, but why do they do? Nothing in our society operates in a way that might imply this.
Is that true? Off the top of my head I think GDPR in the EU might have something to say about this. I don't know if those protections exist anywhere else or not. In the US, people get very upset about things like traffic cameras, and public surveillance in general. Those are usually data-for-punishment vs. data-for-profit (...maybe?), but people here resist things like data recorders in their cars to lower car insura…
GDPR is about personal information.
If they just keep the positional data and location information like the video gathered without linking them to a player, it’s perfectly fine.
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> This applies to all sorts of things. Even electronic things — if I put some files on a USB stick I expect them to be "mine" and used as I please, not uploaded to the cloud behind my back, or similar. Every app you open on Mac sends a "ping" to Apples servers. https://acecilia.medium.com/apple-is-sending-a-request-to-th... .
> I have done some preliminary tests: with a script (a small program) that standalone runs in 0.4 seconds, the extra network requests that Apple performs are taking that number to 6 seconds in average, and in some cases when my wifi is slow, 70 seconds. I just do not believe that. It sounds like a bug in a beta release. I'm sure I would have noticed if every ls I run took 6 seconds, and I'm sure many others would hav…
10.15.7 doesn't sound like a beta to me
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/406246/all-applica... or https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25074959
But that's all kinda besides the point. Companies invading users privacy is pretty common, you just need to look