Its funny because its all going to end in the same situation before all the drama, minus board members who had AI safety in mind.
Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO
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Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO
#302Guess OpenAI that was actually open was dead the moment Altman took MS money and completely change the organization. People there got a taste of the money and the mission went out the window. A lesson to learn I guess, just because something claims to be a nonprofit with a mission doesn’t mean it is/always will be so. All it takes is a corporation with deep pockets to compromise a few important people*, indirectly gi…
> compromise a few important people* Haven't 700 or so of the employees signed onto the letter? Hard to argue it's just a few important people who've been compromised when it's almost the entire company.
Why did you think 700 signed on? Money. Who let the money in? Altman.
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#303An update in the article:
> More: New CEO Emmett Shear has so far been unable to get written documentation of the board’s reasons for firing Altman, which also haven’t been shared with investors
> Employees responded to his announcement in OpenAI’s Slack with a “fuck you” emoji
Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO
#304The only way this story gets more suspenseful: 1) Large military convoys are seen moving towards data centers used by OpenAI. 2) Rumors start going around that GPT-5 demonstrated very unusual behavior towards end of testing last week. 3) "Unknown entity" has somehow gained control of key US infrastructure. 4) Emergency server shut down procedures at key Microsoft Azure data centers rumored to run GPT-5 inference have…
What about: Intercontinental ballistic missiles launch from Alaska toward China. No one knows who ordered and controls the launch. Only one man can stop them in time: Elon Musk.
GPT-5 predicted that and organized a gas-lighting campaign on X against Musk to enrage and distract him.
Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO
#305Earlier quoted context omitted.
Feels like OpenAI employees aren't so enthused about joining MSFT here, no?
Sam starts a new company, they quit OpenAI to join, he fires them months later when the auto complete hype dies out. I don't understand this cult of personality.
maybe chatgpt is overhyped a bit (maybe a lot).... most of that hype is external to OAI.
But to boil it down to autocomplete is just totally disingenuous.
Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO
#306All of this is... sad. Because the drama will end some day.
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#307Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a non-zero chance he was also used as a pawn to deliver the message, but who could be manipulating him then? There's so little actual detail give by anyone in the loop and I think that's what's amplifying the drama so much. Even if the board's motive was weak and unconvincing, I doubt the ratio of employees threatening to quit would be this high had they just said it openly.
Somebody is using a guy with a 160 IQ as a pawn? I for one would like to subscribe to that person's newsletter.
having a 160 iq doesn't mean you're smart enough not to be taken in - it just means you're intelligent in the areas iq tests tend to measure. newton believed in all sorts of pseudoscience, linus pauling devoted years of his life to abject quackery, kevin mitnick hoaxed some extremely bright people - the list is endless.
Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO
#308As of 10am PT, 700 of 770 employees have signed the call for board resignation. [1] [1] https://twitter.com/joannejang/status/1726667504133808242
Given 90%, including leadership, seems a bad career move for remaining people not to sign, even if you agreed with the board's action.
Don't forget some might be on holiday, medical leave, or parental leave.
Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO
#309Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a non-zero chance he was also used as a pawn to deliver the message, but who could be manipulating him then? There's so little actual detail give by anyone in the loop and I think that's what's amplifying the drama so much. Even if the board's motive was weak and unconvincing, I doubt the ratio of employees threatening to quit would be this high had they just said it openly.
Somebody is using a guy with a 160 IQ as a pawn? I for one would like to subscribe to that person's newsletter.
It's very well possible. Ilya may be very smart but this not a technical problem. Smart people in one domain may well be easier to sucker in in another because they already believe they are too smart to be suckered in which makes them easier pickings than someone who is willing to consider the possibility.
Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO
#310An update in the article: > More: New CEO Emmett Shear has so far been unable to get written documentation of the board’s reasons for firing Altman, which also haven’t been shared with investors > Employees responded to his announcement in OpenAI’s Slack with a “fuck you” emoji https://twitter.com/alexeheath/status/1726695001466585231
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