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US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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Legal in what respect? It wouldn't be legal to drive it

So it's only legal to drive a catless car if it was manufactured that way 50 years ago?

Correct. Federal prohibits tampering with or disabling lavatory smoke detectors I mean emissions equipment.

The loophole is that it doesn’t apply if you never take it off private property.

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> pollute as much as 10,000 modified diesel trucks This is insanely hyperbolic. A Cessna Citation I carries 564 gallons of fuel, with which it can travel ~1,500 miles - 2.7mpg. A Ford F-250 carries 48 gallons of fuel, with which it can travel ~700 miles - 14mpg. It's not even 10x.

And furthermore, it matters where non-CO2 pollution is released. Particulates released from a jet at cruising altitude, particularly over an ocean, are less harmful to human health than a truck belching pollution next to a kindergarten.\

I'd also add that two wrongs don't make a right, and while not strict enough there are emissions regulations for aviation.

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My experience is that eBay screws up their filters and wayyy overfilters. The Canadian government has some secret spat with Xiaomi cellphones and got eBay, newegg and Amazon to stop their sale. They weren’t approved for sale in Canada, but I suspect some other reasoning for targeting a Chinese manufacturer in particular and not all the other unapproved products. However, eBay just blocked anything with “xiaomi” in th…

> My experience is that eBay screws up their filters and wayyy overfilters. This is what happens when the penalties are high and users are motivated to evade keyword filtering. I doubt it's what eBay wants to do, but if the law is unclear about how filtering must be done then companies will over-filter to stay safe.

I think calling it overzealous government orders is giving eBay too much credit.

If you ask "what is the quickest way to filter X" someone is going to do a keyword search.

You could then actually put forth the effort to properly filter but generally once the fire is out no one cares anymore.

Unless those other products added up to enough revenue to impact numbers of course.

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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IMHO such start/stop is a fraudulent way to meet MPG targets. Almost everyone I know presses the button to turn off the feature the moment they start their car.

Why the hell would you do that.

Because in a non hybrid there is a very noticeable delay as the engine starts.

I remember turning it off in Europe because trying to start from a dead stop with the engine off in a stick shift is a whole new world of fun I didn’t need.

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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Sometimes to avoid costlier mechanical work like changing O2 sensors, where often cars still give a check-engine-light if you use an aftermarket one (dunno why the aftermarket ones are so poor that they cause emissions problems or if the car’s computer was deliberately/unintentionally so sensitive to force people onto OEM parts).

Oh my gosh, I've had to run a new wire for an O2 sensor because mine gave out and it was a PITA but I couldn't afford the labor at the time and it was putting my car in limp mode which disabled cruise control. so not only was it $150 sensor, but also 5 freaking hours of me watching youtube and get cuts on my hands underneath a car.

Limp mode is so annoying. “Car can go to 3k rpm no more.”

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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Which makes sense. It's not like pollution stays confined within the track area.

Dedicated race cars don't have emissions controls, though. For some reason, only race cars that drive on both roads and tracks are regulated.

Maybe that might be worth regulating, but there aren't many actual race cars around.

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Which makes sense. It's not like pollution stays confined within the track area.

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I think you're probably rather exaggerating the difference here, but nonetheless, sure, let's regulate or the tax the shit out of private jets too, I'm okay with that.

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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Mufflers do not impact emissions. In the case of gasoline cars, there are mechanisms for controlling intake air, recirculating exhaust gas, and filtering emissions directly out of the exhaust gases. All of these impact carbon emissions. These defeat devices allow drivers to modify some or all of these attributes in favor of gaining engine performance.

Muffler delete is a known cause of misfires. It manifests as a popping sound surrounded by the other shitty sounds produced by such a modified exhaust. We have all heard it. A misfire is raw fuel being expelled.

In my kneck of the woods we call that backfire. A misfire is when something goes wrong in the cylinder such as the spark failing. Misfire can cause backfire, but not all backfire is traced to misfire. A very rich mixture can backfire without misfire.

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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If you seriously want to take action here, then do this; 1) Look up your city ordinances on sound, there should be copies of this is the reference section of your city's public library. Identify the ordinance and paragraph that the people nearby are violating. Record/video one or more violations on your phone. 2) Call the police, don't "complain about the noise", tell them you want to "swear out a complaint" for viol…

> 2) Call the police, don't "complain about the noise", tell them you want to "swear out a complaint" for violating ordinance x, paragraph y. They are obligated to take your complaint and forward it to the District Attorney[1]. Good luck getting them to pick up. At least where I live (Seattle), I don't think its possible to get someone on the phone unless you call 911. Daytime phones automated system defers everythin…

As someone who has lived in a variety of south-east US cities, the idea that nobody picks up on the non-emergency police line is bananas to me. Is this really true?

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Say what you will about over-engineering, but the Germans got it so so so right with their metal full black out shades.

I'm unfamiliar with this, but I'd love some well-done black out shades - got a link or a brand?

In Germany they are called rolladens.

The best thing ever!

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