One of the projects on my secret TODO list is feeding Libgen into Elastic Search to get a cross referenced full text search. For now the hardware is prohibitively expensive, but time is on my side. I'm sure redundantly indexing a few 10s of TB will become trivial before the end of the decade.
Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)
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Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)
#302Earlier quoted context omitted.
> There's always someone who just has to spread the despair and helplessness. Every bloody time. Tell me, in what way does this add to the discussion? I wish there was a ban on these kind of comments. It you only want answers you like go talk to a mirror. The way this adds to the discussion should be pretty obvious, but let me spill it out: If one of the main arguments for IP is wrong it's costs/benefits have to be r…
At least a mirror won't tell me "you're fucked, give up now". In that sense, I can expect a less enervating response.
That's not what they said. They said "the power distribution is so skewed against actual people the current system must be destroyed as a matter of principle". What about that is hopeless? It offers a clear escape and very little ambiguity. If anything, it should be energising to a casual reader.
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Society as a whole. Exactly the kind of initiatives governments are supposed to be taking. Instead our governments are totally captured by the profit-seeking organizations and are hellbent on using their monopoly of violence to imprison activists working on these initiatives
Interesting difference here between how YC reacts to Codex vs this library. Both are reusing copyrighted materials to help society.
Codex helps the shareholders of ClosedAI and Micro$oft.
I guess YC reaction to codex would be substantially different if this was a free and open tool anyone could use....
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#304Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a constructive answer, so thanks, although I have to ask your view of how BSD was used by apple to build a massive fortune but without paying significantly back to the BSD community. Overheard from an IP lawyer I stood near to once - something about f/oss software being incorporated into commercial products being a big issue (for the free stuff, not the company doing the 'stealing' of it). Your view?
This is the exact reason why copyleft licenses are important: you can reuse (A)GPL content, but if you do so the result must be given back to the community. If you're not going to pay anything, at least your product benefits everyone
The point is the licenses are irrelevant: The IP lawyer said they take quietly, they incorporate it into their products which they sell.
the licences are being ignored. It's what she said.
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Right, fuck book writers and inventors. Also, the information about nuclear, chemical and bio weapons should be accessible to everyone. Preferably as DIY recipes, that you can follow at home.
Bad example. If a regular citizen can get his hands on tools/materials to make things like that, you are screwed sooner or later.
It seems I've failed to ridicule the top commenter enough.
Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)
#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
> There's always someone who just has to spread the despair and helplessness. Every bloody time. Tell me, in what way does this add to the discussion? I wish there was a ban on these kind of comments. It you only want answers you like go talk to a mirror. The way this adds to the discussion should be pretty obvious, but let me spill it out: If one of the main arguments for IP is wrong it's costs/benefits have to be r…
At least a mirror won't tell me "you're fucked, give up now". In that sense, I can expect a less enervating response.
I'm sorry that corporate intellectual property law is not the idyllic paradise you want it to be.
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I think that's pretty much the case for shortening time frame of IP rights. Which means, they shouldn't be treated as property has been traditionally treated. Although as a socialist, I think perhaps we shouldn't have time unlimited property rights (above certain reasonable boundary, say $10M) in general.
Interesting, but being very opposite of socialist myself I am wholeheartedly with you here on limiting timeframe of IP. It partially solves the problem. And this arguably should be extended to tangible assets as well - I like Singapore model where housing property is sold for specific timeframe. It simplifies a lot of redevelopment.
Something like the homestead principle?
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#308Earlier quoted context omitted.
At least a mirror won't tell me "you're fucked, give up now". In that sense, I can expect a less enervating response.
That's not what they said. They said "the power distribution is so skewed against actual people the current system must be destroyed as a matter of principle". What about that is hopeless? It offers a clear escape and very little ambiguity. If anything, it should be energising to a casual reader.
He said "If you as a private person own a patent, you are losing it anyways...because you cannot fight some mega corporation in court to defend it. It's too expensive, and the biggest corps just take what they want due to having more financial resources"
IOW he didn't say what you claim. Plus he gave no way forward to achieve his goals, and am I not in any position right now to Bring Down The Man, much as The Man may need it, so it was just a hopeless valueless post.
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#309Excellent. I hope more and more people start to see how absurd and evil the concept of "intellectual property" is. It should be totally rejected and any form of keeping useful information for yourself should be shunned and tabooized. In todays world, many have been programmed to believe that the would could not exits without such immoral restrictions, which is horrible.
Such comments remind me provocateur methods used by police to suppress any legitimate critique. It works like this:
1. there is some legitimate issue
2. people protest (peacefully)
3. a provocateur does something over the top (violence, absurd statements like "defund the police")
4. legitimate protesters are discredited because of 3.Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)
#310Earlier quoted context omitted.
Right, fuck book writers and inventors. Also, the information about nuclear, chemical and bio weapons should be accessible to everyone. Preferably as DIY recipes, that you can follow at home.
Bad example. If a regular citizen can get his hands on tools/materials to make things like that, you are screwed sooner or later.
what is sarcasm???