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Re: Amazon is intimidating and harassing organizing workers in Montreal

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US != the world.

The original post is about the US unions; plurality if not majority of the achievements of union activists were originally in the US, too.

You have a very misunderstood perspective of both the rest of the world and unions. Its okay, just continue take reap the benefits of their efforts while you vociferously argue against them.

Re: Amazon is intimidating and harassing organizing workers in Montreal

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post #300

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The original post is about the US unions; plurality if not majority of the achievements of union activists were originally in the US, too.

You have a very misunderstood perspective of both the rest of the world and unions. Its okay, just continue take reap the benefits of their efforts while you vociferously argue against them.

This is vacuous (checks out to "you are wrong" without any evidence or even counters to my post above), irrelevant (the original article is indeed about the US company and US unions) ad hominem (I probably know more about labor history and I ve lived in 3 countries of "the world").

2 things I learned from participating in the comments to this post so far:

1) unions are even more awful than I originally thought.

2) when I tried arguing with hardcore creationists in the aughtts, I thought that they must be the most dishonest and incompetent interlocutors in history; I was wrong - that was before I met union activists :D now that I think of it, it makes sense, Earth being 5kyo does sound more believable than unions doing good :P

Re: Amazon is intimidating and harassing organizing workers in Montreal

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You don't think the UAW has any impact on the price of autoworker labor?

On a global level? No. On a local level? Maybe? But consider that the US workers of the most valuable car company in the world (by a factor of about 3)are not part of the UAW, so it's debatable at best.

Tesla is a tiny, tiny company. Tesla's market share is about 2.5%, or 14% when only looking at electric vehicles.

It's not even in the top 10 of car manufacturers by revenue. In fact it's only like 1/5th the size of the tenth place (Hyundai), or about 1/14th the size of the first place on that list (Volkswagen). It's not going move any car markets on its own, regardless of what goes on at Tesla.

So yeah, valuation is completely detached from (current) reality in this case, and Tesla is not a great example.

We could look at the biggest manufacturer instead, but I'm sure most people have heard of VW's union by now.

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