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Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by runeks »

burntoutfire wrote: post #293
pembrook wrote: post #94

After seeing posts like this on HN for years, this one officially scared me enough to completely migrate off Gmail altogether. I’m in the process right now of removing my gmail from any online account. Pro-tip: if you use a password manager, it’s as easy as searching for your Gmail address. For all other accounts, I’ve been able to find them by searching for the phrases “verify your email” or “verify email” or “verif…

I'm not sure if Google can kill Gmail. If any major competitor takes over, they could mine emails for ad value, which would give them a large edge.

Perhaps, but they can kill individual accounts.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by exikyut »

kingcharles wrote: post #131
ilamont wrote: post #97

How many more pleas like this will we see on HN? Or, hear from friends, colleagues, and relatives who have been locked out or denied access to an important service, either through no fault of their own or by an innocent action? No warning. No explanation other than "suspicious activity" or "violation of [vaguely worded] policy." No human to call who can help troubleshoot, other than a tech-savvy friend or relative. N…

It's really disheartening that these support channels are so poor. I had my bank account terminated recently for a valid support request the bank didn't want to deal with as it would require a change to their concrete support script. My girlfriend had her Tumblr account terminated by some automated process and Tumblr won't respond to her. And this was devasting to her, because not only was it content she had spent a…

I am very curious to get a tad more context about the bank issue, if that's straightforward.

Also, I have no idea if this will work, but: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19418165 - a bit of quote-googling (recommended to verify) suggests this person may use gmail. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by exikyut »

B1FF_PSUVM wrote: post #182
jjcm wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It'd be interesting what a technology bill of rights looks like, but one form I could easily support would be saying any account that acts as an identity provider (i.e. oauth) requires a judge ruling to be deleted. It'd require additional identification measures to prevent spam upon creation, but the tradeoffs might be worth it. One of the larger impacts of having your gmail deleted is how many other services likely…

Yep, effectively Gmail is your internet driver license.

TIL comments can be downvoted enough to be grey but upvoted enough to float to the top of the subthread.

https://i.imgur.com/tqlQeTW.png

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by runeks »

pembrook wrote: post #94

After seeing posts like this on HN for years, this one officially scared me enough to completely migrate off Gmail altogether. I’m in the process right now of removing my gmail from any online account. Pro-tip: if you use a password manager, it’s as easy as searching for your Gmail address. For all other accounts, I’ve been able to find them by searching for the phrases “verify your email” or “verify email” or “verif…

The simplest solution to this I can think of is to use a mail app on your laptop that syncs with your Gmail. That way you will always have a local copy of your emails.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by emilburzo »

oezi wrote: post #281
stackedinserter wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously, we've been in this for a decade at least. There was enough time to learn this single lesson: data stored in someone's cloud is not your data. In 2022 it's plain stupid to keep your email in Gmail or rely on Google Photos as the only storage for your family archive. People pay $15/mo for Netflix, but can't pay $50/year for a email address? Nobody will lend a random person $1000, but people still happily giv…

But paying 50 USD still keeps the data in the cloud. You cannot spend money to solve the backup problem, you need a process and quite a lot of technical and organizational skill. I honestly think there are less than 1 in 100 people who have a working system of backups that would bring them back all their photos taken from their mobile phones. Since Google turned off syncing of photos to Google Drive, my system broke…

> Since Google turned off syncing of photos to Google Drive, my system broke for instance. Like OP, I haven't had time to set a new backup process up since then.

Do it now[1].

Assuming what you already have setup for Google Drive is using rclone, it's probably not going to take you longer than what it took to write that comment.

[1] https://wiki.emilburzo.com/backing-up-your-google-digital-li...

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by sireat »

This is extremely concerning.

I also have over 500 unlisted training videos - seen by average of 10-30 people each.

Most are boring IntelliJ or VS Code screencasts.

However some contain small outtakes from other Youtube videos - this could potentially trigger a strike.

SSD holding originals died without warning.

Time to download everything and invest into archive grade Blu-ray or LTO tapes.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by mkl »

newscracker wrote: post #224
jen729w wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just gonna throw Migadu in here as a mail host. Everyone loves Fastmail, which is cool - I'm an ex-happy-user - but Migadu's point of difference is their pricing. Whereas Fastmail charges by the user/month (or did when I was there), which can add up quickly if you've got a bunch of domains, Migadu does not. They charge by volume. You can add as many domains and mailboxes as you like. For some use cases - mine, and li…

I completely agree on the pricing front. Migadu’s pricing (like Mxroute’s) is good for those who need multiple mailboxes. > They're run by real people in Switzerland. Please note that the data centers used by Migadu are in France. This may be a concern for some people who are looking to avoid 14 eyes countries.

Their explanation why: "We find EU privacy laws much more elaborate and restrictive than the Swiss ones. Switzerland used to be famous for banking secrecy, but that has nothing to do with digital data." https://www.migadu.com/procon/

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by andor »

makeitdouble wrote: post #277
exikyut wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just thinking out loud, I wonder if this falls afoul of the GDPR for users in the EU in any way. This "access is blocked" position kind of leaves hanging whether data has explicitly been retained or deleted; so in scenarios where a user could demonstrate incontrovertible proof that they uploaded some information to a service and did not delete it, it would be interesting to see if the user could leverage freedom-of-i…

I think GDPR rules would be cleared with Google effectively deleting all the data, which could be their laziest solution to a legal request…

No, they actually have to keep the data safe for their users. Deleting the data is a GDPR violation.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by ruc0la »

jen729w wrote: post #176
pembrook wrote: post #94

After seeing posts like this on HN for years, this one officially scared me enough to completely migrate off Gmail altogether. I’m in the process right now of removing my gmail from any online account. Pro-tip: if you use a password manager, it’s as easy as searching for your Gmail address. For all other accounts, I’ve been able to find them by searching for the phrases “verify your email” or “verify email” or “verif…

Just gonna throw Migadu in here as a mail host. Everyone loves Fastmail, which is cool - I'm an ex-happy-user - but Migadu's point of difference is their pricing. Whereas Fastmail charges by the user/month (or did when I was there), which can add up quickly if you've got a bunch of domains, Migadu does not. They charge by volume. You can add as many domains and mailboxes as you like. For some use cases - mine, and li…

I had super bad experience with Migadu. They had changed important settings and sent email about it few days later (pop server name), then they doubled the price despite their old home page claims (again no email notification). During the pandemia there were several downtimes. Emails to yahoo were not really delivered (I have an old domain, and I send only private emails.)

I switched to mxroute and it just works. Migadu's price is ok but the support and communication was really weak back then.

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